paul wheaton wrote:I think that if it came from below, it would be far easier to do. Because you would then do it a lot like you cook lots of things. Therefore, I think that this much more complicated technique is required.
Heavy emphasis on the "I think". I did not press this question to Sepp - although I would be interested to hear what he says.
paul wheaton wrote:This thread is to discuss a bit of the Sepp Holzer's Permaculture article.
On the first full day class we toured a farm where the animals had wiped out nearly all growth. The land owner's intent was to get a fresh start. So, first run too many animals in there to eliminate all of the weeds and ... well .... everything. Then come in and plant the stuff you want to keep. Sepp was very direct and did not mince words: He did not approve.
Sepp pointed out how only the trees were left, but since animals had nibbled at the bark so much, he called these trees "standing dead."
Sepp then told us about how he makes a sort of bone sauce that he puts on trees and will keep the animals from nibbling the trees forever. ("What? Forever?" "decades." "It can't possibly last that long" "What can I say, it lasts that long." - and this same discussion was rehashed a few times and Sepp stuck to his guns. Decades.)
I first wrote this section from memory and it turns out I made lots of mistakes. Fortunately, somebody else that was there helped me to remember details and she has the book that mentions this (which is all in german, but she speaks german!)
First you start with a cast iron kettle and bury it a bit and put a cup of water in the bottom. The fill another kettle with bones, put a screen over it and then plop the bone kettle upside down on the other kettle. Then pack clay around the edges to make a good seal. Then Pile up some dirt and build a big fire over the whole thing.
Here is my lame attempt at drawing Sepp Holzer's bone sauce contraption
Keep the fire going for an hour or two and then let it sit for a day. Then collect the nasty gunk from the bottom. Apparently this smells awful. Smear a little of this around the trunk of any tree and animals won't ever touch that tree.
John Elliott wrote:
is this something that works with this very aggressive grass?
Short of putting a pig pen on top of it and have them root out every last stolon? No.
You probably will have little shoots finding crack and cuts in the cardboard making their way up and sprouting. Just keep pulling them when you weed. Fortunately for your xeriscape, bermuda grass only barely survives on 4" of water. In places like Palm Springs and Las Vegas (both 4" of rain a year), bermuda can only exist where it is watered, and dies away after a couple years without irrigation.
Steve Hunt wrote:I am willing to volunteer many hours each day or night to a farm that practices aspects of permaculture. I am currently in college from about 2pm to 5pm Monday-Thursday, and every other Friday (all day); but I am willing to dedicate all other hours to labor without pay in order to learn through farming experience. I am highly capable and willing to perform hard physical labor and long hours.