Thanks guys , I will do some further research for sure, I just had the impression that people were going to steel for their burn tubes ,(not the ducting in the mass) and insulating the steel tube ,,,mayhaps I had some out dated info. my plan is to go horizontal exhaust ,with everything outside (similar to those gawd awful boiler systems but much more efficient,,,heck ,a bonfire would be more efficient),and duct warm air into the house ,as I am working with limited space and moronic inspectors/codes, it's a real issue around here, and I'm not the most subtle negotiator,