Mick Fisch wrote:I'm stuck on the oil/fat production question. Carbs I can get, but historically the most prized item and the hardest thing to get a lot of was fat (ok, I can hear you guys already gearing up about olive oil in the mediteranean, pork fat in northern europe, coconut in polynesia). Every culture has come up with some solution, but we need fat.
I have been thinking about that one as well... I was a fruitarian for some time, and then it is recommended to eat very little fat, actually much less then we would dream of. Imagine, if eating avocados, being recommended to eat only one third, otherwise your you'd have exeded your fat ration (and fruitarians eat no oils, and normally no nuts). It is actually possible to live with less fat, especially in warmer climates. This is my experience, the colder it gets, the more we crave fatty foods.
I really don't believe in seed oils. Bacon, nut oil are some options for colder countries. One way of getting live animal fat (but not in that big quantities) is to raise waxies, that is, waxworms, they are living in beehives and live off the honey, and are very fatty and tasty... yeah, I know, most people are not ready for this, but somehow, grubs will become more common in the future, also for proteins and zinc, etc... (most vegans/vegetarians have a copper overload, and not enough zinc, found mostly in meat and grubs)
I still believe that we eat too much fats. I realise how easy it is to overdo the fats, but also that it really is possible to live on less fats. Better to go for high quality stuff.
Jesse Fister wrote:I once did an experiment with a survivalist author in which we cooked a song bird that had accidentally fallen into his mouse trap. We cooked in Navajo style. That is, we took the intestines out and then cooked it in the fire until the feathers had burnt off. Then we pounded the bird into a small cake - skin, brains and all - which we then ate. I was surprised at how many calories we got out of it.