Julianne Siddoway

I use old hoses that are cracked as my permaculture drip lines. I cute a hole with tin snips and then I cut a cap from another old hose to go over the hole. I call it a 'snap cap'. It allows junk to come out if it's canal water and never clogs because the hole is big but the whole system is pressurized because of the caps over the holes.

Phil Stevens wrote:The refractory is going to heat up to RMH core temperatures and surely the aircrete will start to degrade from the part that is in contact with the lining. We normally surround a burn tunnel with insulative material that can withstand lots of heat: superwool, perlite, pumice, etc.

I've done a postmortem of a failed combustion chamber and for the first two seasons it seemed great...I'm still not sold on the concept over the long haul until I see a teardown of one that's been running for at least a couple of years in daily service.

Yes, our first attempt melted the steel...within a few months. This one is a refractory mix batch box. Then the layer of aircrete outside that and then the sheet metal outer shell. This mix is alumina cement used by NASA to make their outer tiles for the space shuttle. Insulating the outside of the batchbox with aircrete keeps the back of the batch box so hot that it is a complete combust.

Scott Weinberg wrote:

Fox James wrote:The stove looks interesting, I am not sure if I am getting this right but it seems Mr Honey do is selling digital plans to build his version of a rocket stove for $250.?

I dont think he has had it officially tested in any way or if it is in any way a better performer than Peters Batch  Box that has been extensively tested and the detailed plans are free?

I have to agree with Fox James,  and add, If  anyone on this "permies" group finds any of this to be true, Please do post....but in the mean time, I don't think the basic principals can't be done, but would love to be proven wrong.

Such as, I think he is saying
-his green wood burns as good or better than dry wood, humm
=his mass holds more heat for less weight than anyone elses
= his riser is better than anyone else's
- in others videos he has reported  2500-2700 degree's F   but can the  the rest of us get that? hummm.....
- 4 inch flue pipe, really?

There is always hope, always...

He isn't saying that it burns better with green wood. He is just playing with different fuels to see if it causes a problem to burn wet wood. So far it will burn wet wood just fine and still no smoke or creosote but the wet wood cools the stove down quite a bit. It runs best with a mix of dry and wet and also if the wet wood is split instead of whole.

Thought this was a cool video. Darwin just put the plans up and you don't need to know how to weld to build it.

This time of year I want all the green I can get. I made money in 2020 cutting my fruit back and starting new plants in my kitchen

Elena Sparks wrote:Do you have pictures of the cows? Or the trailer?

Here is her website. Lots of pictures!


https://packidahofarm.com/

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Anyone wanting to get into the cheese and raw milk business? My friend wants to keep all of the cows together rather than splitting them up and she REALLY doesn't want them to go to a commercial dairy. She makes cheese/yogurt/frozen yogurt and sells it to the fancy people in Salmon Idaho. It is such a good deal I thought I would post it here and see if anyone is interested?

She tried to train someone to take over for her but after 7 people leaving in 2 years she is fed up trying to find anyone who cares enough. She has a separate house on the property for her barn manager but it wasn't enough of an incentive to her local kids. It breaks my heart to see her lose this income but she is in her mid sixties and can't do it alone. If you are interested I can share her email with you.

Too bad someone from the SKIP program wasn't available before she ran out of steam.

Douglas Alpenstock wrote:

Darwin Honeydo wrote:Hey guys and gals, I invented this RMH stove. I use a high temp refractory for the burn box that is typically reserved for foundry use. It is denser than soap stone. when cured at high temperatures above 1500 degrees it's fracturing strength is almost 20000 lbs. per square inch. Its normal operating temperature is between 3-4 thousand degrees. I regularly record temperatures of 2800 degrees in the back of my stove.

I think you've invented something very interesting. It has many possibilities. And because it's lightweight, it could even be integrated into travel trailers and such. Or a portable unit for hunter's tents, emergency shelters, disaster relief, ...the list goes on.

Darwin Honeydo wrote:Hard woods will maintain the burn box temp between 750C and 900C which is the sweet spot where (HTSE) happens.

But respectfully, I suggest that if you promote the HTSE angle, and these temperatures in particular (sans catalyst), what you've achieved will be hacked to death by the howling mob of the wider Internet. The feedback received here has been thoughtful and respectful. That will not apply elsewhere: it paints an easy target for people to shoot at. There is no net energy gain. Why insist on this?

Hi Douglas,
I can't speak for Darwin but I can speak from my own use of the stove and why this new angle is something we want to share. If by super-insulating the refractory brick batch box you can create these high temps without destroying the stove it makes the stove safer, easier to make and operate, and more useful in less than ideal circumstances. If you HAD to burn wet would because that was all you had without risking creosote problems isn't that pretty useful to the common man? If you can burn less than ideal wood without creating a smoke problem because EVERYTHING is vaporized doesn't that have value. No there is no increase in energy but it does mean less headache and maintenance for the user. Also by trying to understand and hypothesize what is happening in this stove we can get together and brainstorm about uses for such a tool down the road. I have been burning this stove in my off grid cabin for four years and we keep finding new uses for it's tricks. That is all. Juli

Douglas Alpenstock wrote:Interesting! That's a very cool (hot) stove you've put together. How long do you think the aircrete will hold up?

I'm not entirely sure about the high temperature steam electrolysis idea. I thought that only started to happen above 2000C unless a catalyst was involved. That's higher than the melting point of steel.

The aircrete in the first stove only held up two seasons not because it wasn't good but because the steel that was the first batch box melted. The aircrete then had no hard physical protection and when we put logs in it would dent the aircrete insulation. The Gen. 2 stove is insulated with aircrete but the batch box is a folded brick box with a refractory mix that was mixed for crucibles. Yes, these heats do melt steel.

The Honey Do Carpenter has an aircrete insulated rocket stove that burns at just the right temp to use water vapor as fuel. It is the weirdest thing you've ever seen because you put the wet wood on a mass of coals and the flame is white in the back but you pull the wet piece of wood out of the the stove and it isn't even charred. Anyone else ever heard of this? Almost like it's burning hydrogen? Here are some videos about the stove. Darwin is just about to put the pdf up so people can build them at home. You don't have to know how to weld  and you pour your own refractory mix burn chamber. Also, when attached to a bench the horizontal pipe in the bench doesn't even have to be level to pull the smoke. We dropped our exhaust down 18 inches before going through the bench and we never had any problem with draw. Here are some videos, I am a little giddy about the plans coming out so I apologize if this post is all over the place.