Nancy Reading wrote:I'm used to NOPQR as the letter order (UK) , but maybe they changed it.... (or was it just a joke Paul?)
The first time I went to the UK at 16 to visit relatives, we had to stand in a queue to buy toilet paper sheets and then pay the admission fee via a slot in the door - hence the term, spend a penny.
My parents were in the UK to get married immediately post WWll. Mum always said that if a queue formed, you jumped in line to see what you could buy that was probably rationed or short stocked.
Probably needs to go into the UK thread but I will put it here and move it later: Hence - Q for everything and Pee for relief (my parents version)
Origin and Popularisation (Wikipedia)
Clapham and Dwyer
The Cockney Alphabet was popularised by the comedy duo Clapham and Dwyer in the 1930s.
Their version, titled "A Surrealist Alphabet," was recorded in 1936 and featured a series of humorous phrases that correspond to each letter of the alphabet.
Example Phrases
Here are some examples from the Cockney Alphabet:
Letter Phrase Translation
A A for 'orses Hay for horses
B B for mutton Beef or mutton
C C for 'th highlanders Seaforth Highlanders
D D for 'ential Deferential
E E for Adam Eve or Adam
F F for 'vescence Effervescence
G G for police Chief of police
H H for respect Age for respect
I I for Novello Ivor Novello
J J for oranges Jaffa oranges
K K for 'ancis Kay Francis
L L for leather Hell for leather
M M for 'sis Emphasis
N N for 'adig In for a dig
O O for the garden wall Over the garden wall
P P for a penny Pee for a penny
Q Q for a song Cue for a song
R R for mo Half a mo' (short for moment)
S S for you It's for you
T T for two Tea for two
U U for me You for me
V V for l'France Vive la France
W W for a bob Double you for a bob
X X for breakfast Eggs for breakfast
Y Y for God’s sake Why for God’s sake
Z Z for breezes Zephyr breezes
This alphabet serves as a humorous reflection of Cockney culture and language, showcasing the creativity and wit of its speakers.
Long answer Nancy - Yes 🤣