Stephanie Naftal

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Hi everyone. This is finalized and I would love it if someone wanted to come and talk about rocket mass heaters… or any other cool permie type things! My contact info is on the flyer.
14 hours ago
Thanks! Yeh I’m hoping someone else will deal with that since I’ll be running things. Most people here have never even heard of rocket mass heaters and don’t really understand what regenerative ag is.
2 weeks ago
Hi everyone,
I am quickly organizing this Festival in Red Lodge, MT for July 15th. Noon to 7pm. Hopefully a food truck or two and I’m sure I can get a few people to come and play music.
Anyway, I’d love to have some permies input. About the festival would be amazing. But to show up and be a vendor/educator would be pretty awesome too.
We really don’t have a ton of permies people over here that I know of. I know of no one to come and talk about rocket mass heaters for example.
The City thinks changing windows and lightbulbs is getting the job done. Talk of moving to zero waste is met with confusion.
So!!! I thought I’d start this thing and see what comes of it. We have nothing like it over here. Locals farmers market yes - doesn’t equal sustainability. Rural development yes - also doesn’t equal giving a crap about the planet.

Here’s all the info. Please let me know what you think. I know I might be opening the flood gates here but…I’m here! I need outside voices and people willing to come and help as well. Thanks!!!

Sustainable Rural Development Festival
July 15, 2026, 12-7pm
Red Lodge, MT
Sustaining Ourselves alongside the Natural World


A first attempt at gathering various people from the region who are committed by lifestyle, values, and work to long term sustainability and to a future here supported by regenerative initiatives that don’t only support the people here but also the land, wildlife, and rivers.

Short term goals - celebrate and encourage regenerative human activities and promote environmental responsibility in the region. To gather in community, lift each other up, and inspire others.

Long term goals - an increasingly rich network of projects of ecological and human value in the region.

Description:
—This would be the first (hopefully annual) festival in this area. Located at the Roosevelt Center, mostly outside on the lawn.
—An effort to think creatively about our shared future in this region; how we can sustain our rich lives here, creatively thinking about the word sustainability and understanding it’s deeper meaning for our own sustainability, with the knowledge that we are a part of nature, and therefore our actions impact our ability to live here longterm.
—To create a network of people, projects, entrepreneurs, products, and more which have in common the quality of having environmental values and respect for the natural world.

With a clear intention for each vendor having an education component, the hope is to market our own businesses, celebrate our achievements, and inspire others to live more in harmony with the natural world of which we are a part of.

I would like to have a food truck or two there as well if possible. We could also potentially incorporate speakers and set times for them. Music would also be nice, whether it’s a small band or even just someone roaming with a guitar.

Vendors who are selling their products or marketing their businesses will pay a $15 booth fee after their application is approved.
Community members with tables who are not marketing their businesses or selling products will not pay a table fee.
There will not be an entry fee.
Vendors will be asked to do their very best to avoid using and distributing single use plastics and throw away items unless they are sustainably manufactured and compostable.
2 weeks ago

Thanks Julie. It must be a regulation thing - USDA takes a very long time to approve this kind of thing. I am wondering, what effect does the iron have on the soil? How are you using it? All over? Just on the soil? I don’t ever use stuff like that so I’m totally lost. I have this really awesome and diverse garden but these slugs came in years ago in a bag of soil and they are everywhere now.

Julie Wolf wrote:

Stephanie Naftal wrote:My friend in the UK swears by nematodes for slugs. She says she finally had a slug free season. I am in the boat of trying to find some in the US - the one company I found said, nematodes don’t kill slugs. Weird.



When I did research a few years ago, I found that this Nemotode slug solution was only available in the UK not the US. For a while I made the homemade slugoo and tried yeast,sugar,flour traps. but I finally just ended up using Slugo type products with the non toxic just iron ingredients. Used in spring and fall is prevents new populations and leads to less slugs.

1 year ago
My friend in the UK swears by nematodes for slugs. She says she finally had a slug free season. I am in the boat of trying to find some in the US - the one company I found said, nematodes don’t kill slugs. Weird.
1 year ago
Somehow I missed all of these awesome tips. Thank you so much everyone who responded!!
2 years ago
All great advice, thanks! And no it isn’t a crawl around space, so no issue there.

Cécile Stelzer Johnson wrote:When you say "crawl space", how tall is it? Maybe it's because I'll soon turn 73 but you may tire of crawling on your hands & knees to retrieve your potatoes. If you really want to use a crawl space that way, you may want to have a firm floor and get a dolly or 2 or 3 dollies with ropes so you can pull your stuff out when you want it. If it is possible, you may want to enlarge that crawl space deeper, with a door you can access from the house. Of course, you don't want to weaken your foundations either by digging close to a wall or much lower than the foundations.
If your garage is insulated, or if you have an area of the garage or a basement you can close off, or an attic you can get quick access to, those may be much better options. Bins built with 1/4"wire and a lid will offer the protection against mice that are sure to get interested in your wonderful goodies!
Your onions, garlic, sweet potatoes will fare much better in a closet, inside the house. Sweet potatoes in particular just cannot handle the cold.
Another benefit to using spaces that are in areas of the house most travelled is that your stuff will actually get used, whereas if you have to wade in the snow or crawl under your house/ deck to fetch something, you will find you are not that hungry after all, and perhaps quick mashed potatoes from a cardboard box will have more appeal. Ask me how I know.
The University of Maine suggests 3 different types of storage: cold, cool and warm, by ideal temperature and humidity.
https://extension.umaine.edu/publications/4135e/

2 years ago
Yes, the mice issue is the biggest worry. Thanks!!

Jay Angler wrote:Yes, sticking a thermometer down there would be a great start.

Ideally, a root cellar should be close to 32F, but not drop below that for ideal vegetable storage. If I was storing canning, I wouldn't risk it that cold as it's one thing for a carrot to freeze and another thing for a glass jar to.
There are veggies - like onions - who like it a bit warmer, so ideal root cellars have colder zones and warmer zones.
You'll likely have more consistent temps on the north wall. My parents house had a walled off area that was insulated from the rest of the basement, but not from the foundation wall and it did the job unless we had a protracted cold snap. You want a quick project, but even recycled bubble wrap draped down to "trap" the cold of a north wall could get you a cool spot without it freezing. Ideally, you would check the temp first thing in the morning for a while to see what the trends are and how it tracks with outdoor temps.

Rats and mice will be attracted to the smell of fruit and veg and they can chew through plastic, so the thicker the better or look for metal buckets/tubs. The tubs themselves need airflow, so consider using hardware cloth to make mouse-proof lids or drill small holes to allow airflow. That said, last year I used buckets with potatoes layered in sawdust inside a broken freezer inside an insulated out-building and they lasted far longer than any other system I've tried in the past. We generally get only a little below freezing weather.

I think it would definitely be possible to do this as a quick project. Friends I know who used to have a crawl space did get a pair of movers dolly's and fashioned a "cart" so they didn't actually have to wreck their knees crawling on concrete.

2 years ago
Helloooooooooo,
So yeh. We have a crawl space and we want a root cellar. We live in Red Lodge, MT. It’s underground, somewhat heated because of all the heat making things down there, and so it’s also ventilated. I don’t think there are mice down there but I thought about just setting it all in a tub and making it so no mice could get to it. We don’t need to store a ton of stuff at this point. Should we just try it out with onions and see how long they last?? Any suggestions? Put a thermometer down there and see what the actual temp is? I already have a ton of projects and don’t really feel like making this into another big one. Thanks!
5 years ago