R Ranson wrote:
With my garden and my pension, I have just enough food to feel comfortable. I rely heavily on my other income for luxuries like clothing... to the point where I'm now cutting up my drapes because I need a new jacket... it's drapes or jacket, not both. This gives you some idea where my income bracket is. It would be lovely to give everything away to charity like most of the other craftspeople in my circle. But sorry, I HAVE to charge for my creations. I depend on it for the luxuries like salt and (if I can afford it next spring) sweet potato starts. My health prevents me from holding down a wage job but I've taken the opportunity to improve my skills and make things when I can.
R Ranson wrote: For me, I feel that social responsibility is a huge element to any pricing. I would love it if people could consider this.
I remember a bit on Fukuoka's book One Straw Revolution where he was furious to learn that people were putting a high price tag on his oranges because they were organic. He refused to sell to that shop anymore because his oranages took less effort, less expense, less environmental impact to make - therefore they should cost less to buy than regular oranges.
R Ranson wrote: I don't know Joseph's situation, but in my ideal view, he is charging the true price of mustard seed. If he charged the going rate to make up for other losses then that wouldn't teach the customers the true value of things. If he charges what they actually cost him to make, then maybe it will influence the greater marketplace and all over the world, people will stop gouging for mustard seeds. One tiny spice, I know, but a huge step in the right direction.
I wonder, as crafspeople, maybe that's what's most important. Teaching our customers the true value of things.
Kyrt Ryder wrote:
Nolan Zemanski wrote:I don't feel like this is truly permaculture. Permaculture should be something that's accessible to all if its what the teacher in this instance believes in. Shouldn't we be trying to spread our knowledge, that is supposedly what is going to save the world, as best we can and with permaculture principles built into the method of spreading it?
Doesn't it make more sense to make our work donation based? The people that are going to attend are most likely people that would also be putting their money towards good causes and therefore it shouldn't matter as much that their money ends up in your hands or theirs.
Sure in theory. But we live in a world with expenses. All the social capital in the world won't pay your debts. Even if you get everything paid off, there's still taxes and repairs to be made, and investments to be made into further progress.
Capital is the energy used to drive progress, so profit is a good thing so long as it isn't obtained by Extraction.