Christoph Day

Remember that excess Proteins are turned into Carbs inside the body. The solution so is eating plant fibers. Things seemingly poor in nutrients. Basically what you think it can not be is the solution except the nuts (a nut from time to time should be OK after restoring your Microbiom in your colon). So green leaves as main food. Through fasting, detox programs enema with living clay (not sterilized) and eating clay and fresh green leaves it should be possible to re-establish a functioning microbiom. It will then produce fats as your main energy source and the dead microbes are transported back to the small intestins where they provide you with the proteins you need. Just think about your Microbiom if you eat meat and Nuts, containing oil and proteins. Your Microbiom is unemployed. So what happens with your muscles if you don't use them? And you don't feed your Microbiom. So what if you don't eat what you supposed to eat? You get sick and die early. Same with your Microbiom.
Human Nutrition is a science with still many question marks. It also needs to take into consideration how humans evolved? Were they made by the Anunaki, which hybridized us from some kind of primates or do we come from Gorilla and/or Bonobos. However, there is not much difference in the two ways. We can compare anatomy of those apes with ours and then learn from them what they eat. I think closest to the reality is Dr. med Joachim Mutter. He refers us to the Mountain Gorillas, which eat mostly green leaves and young Bamboo, Elephant grass and few fruits. Anastasia (books from Vladimir Megre) told us that Adam mostly got nourished by the pollen and other nutrients in the air and alive water and had to care about eating leaves and herbs. I think this has something. It makes some sense to me as we humans have other tasks than to search and eat food. Anastasia gives thoughts I want to take into consideration.
At least one Book from Dr. med Joachim Mutter is available in english "Eat Green". Also speeches are available on YouTume etc. Realy interesting. And from there you can start your Foodforest design. I also work on that but on the Philippines. Currently I make "Wanted Posters" for the Organisms I want to integrate in my Ecosystems as a planning tool. And I bought some seeds for planting for my basic needs and improving the soil.
living Clay you can get by making a loam slurry and pour it in a hole inside the soil. The light clay particles settle on top of the sediments and the water drains away. Then you harvest the top 1/2" which is chocolate fine and tastes much better than the ventillated one you can buy (proposed you have a clean source of loam).

Brian Pettit wrote:Oh wow! I had no idea this topic was already generated!! I have some catching up to do to learn what has been discussed so far but I just HAD to make a post to get the ball rolling again. I have LOTS of ideas for overcoming the issue of pressure slowing the windmill rotation and the most interesting one involved using a VERTICAL BLADE wind turbine built from like a playground carousel but install air tanks ON THE PERIMETER so that they gain weight as they pressurize. Rig some wind blades and a compressor head close to the axle underneath and pipe the output of the compressor up through the axle with a swivelling coupler and pipe the air to the tanks on the carousel. Another idea I am working on is a PENDULUM swing with the air tank as the pendulum weight and a simple sail on top. I have a prototype video started here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOhBQDYTVuQ

THANK YOU for raising this idea, I look forward to catching up and contributing some more, I have even begun to covert a gas powered generator to compressed air with the aid of a flywheel.

I could imagine to put a similar kind of mechanism inbetween trees or branches of one tree. We had a tree house with some branches through the roof. Since they didn't moove simultaneously they destroyed the roof. Means between branches are big forces if the wind is blowing. I was already thinking of putting linear electric generators inbetween branches before to harness those forces. Now the idea to store pressurized air in a tank and producing it direcktly mechanically is also more sympatic to me as there are less energy transformation stages which means always energy loss.

I wonder about the Minimum requirment 15 feet tall. Shouldn't this be 1.5m tall? That would be 5 feet.

I could imagine putting some mulch on the roof and keep it moist. This will stay moist maybe for the day and collects dew in the night, Make a dense layer of soft mulch (grasses, herbs, leaveses mix) and a rough irregular layer which is loose (woody herbs, branches of bushes) so that the nightair can move through it and can condense water on the surface of the mulch. The condensed water will drop into your soft dense mulch which soaks it up. The sunlight and warm air can then evaporate moisture from the dense layer of mulch during daytime which results in a cooling of the roof surface. If you plant seeds of such woody herbs and bushes into the dense layer of mulch befor putting the loose mulch, you will get a almost mainenance free natural cooler. Take care to have an uneven mulch- or canopy surface on your roof to have a big surface for the air to condense water. I've seen somebody in California studying which plant species are the best water collectors in the night. Maybe you can find the Website and the plants she found. It's likely that her study is already finished now. then you can combine such plants to a low uneven multistory open canopy. Bill Mollison has scetches of such uneven canopies for big forests in his Permaculture - A Designers' Manual. What you'll end up with is such a canopy in miniature. There are even very small palms (red palm) and Bamboos (Multiplex and Japanese) which reach around 1m hight.

I am looking for an affordable way to do earthworks on my farm. Bill Mollison suggests the use of Ammonium Nitrate /Fuek Oil ANFO. So I started doing research about blasting. There I came across a Video that states that left mining sites are given back to the indigenous people. I wonder whether they have an idea how to apply permaculture on those places and whether they have the means to apply Permaculture there. Here we also have mining sites. And seems a challenge there are chemicals they use to extract gold from the rock.
Currently I study Bill Mollisons Permaculture - A Desdigners' Manual. I'm going to apply it on a land under the social reforestation Program of which my wife is a steward. My idea is to, after that, offer the government or owner of a left mining site to apply Permaculture there. This is necessary as there are vast environmental destructions created through the mining operations. The destruction also affects the population in those areas.
Regarding the Blasting: I'm not sure whether I can safe money for the application on my farm because AN fertilizer is not anymore suitable for blasting as it has another treatment which makes it hard. For Blasting soft AN is needed. Then there are regulations for the use of Explosives and to fulfill all the requirments might be very expensive and includes the registration of a business else I will be not entertained I guess. (I experienced this already with the Bureau of Plant Industry.) It could be worth while if I help my neighbours to shape their farms too. However I'll continue my research and will make a comparison when I've found a walkable solution.

Karl Treen wrote:This post represents an incredible amount of thought and consideration.  The only other place that I have found such a scientific approach is in Mollison's Permaculture, a Designer's Manual. We should all strive for such precision in our work.

To sum it up, I believe what Neil is working on is a uniform way for us to describe polycultures.  For some of us more earthy types this might seem totally OCD but, in truth, if we are going to establish Permaculture as a viable alternative to "modern agriculture" we need a system that the scientific community will take seriously.  This could very well be that system.

At first I do this precition work for my own success. The soil on my place is so terribly poor. First some fruit trees and banana were bearing fruits. few years later this stopped maybe because the nutrients from the dieyng plants were consumed by then. I started more serious experiments in permaculture a few years ago and had but little success. So I know I have to pull all stops of my grand permaculture organ to be as successfull as I want to be. I currently study the "Permaculture - a Designers' Manual" from Bill Mollison. I extract plant names along with their functions and give me tasks to acomplish. When I'm through, I will repeat and put the things from the differen chapters together which belong together to get a really holistic concept. Bill Mollison mentioned that we don't have to pull out several Elements from his Book and think we could be successfull. Instead we have to apply every aspect of his Euvre. Just think, I've spent years not planning but trying certain Elements but not thoroughly worked out. If I would have started designing my nucleis first, Those could already work for me while I establish other nucleis. That would have saved me a lot of time in the timeframe from Start to success.

Secondary I do it for those who can see what I do, to prove that a systematic planning is essential for the success one wishes to have. This can include scientists of course.

I also like Neils post. Especially the idea with establishing stands of mushrooms beneficial to my enterprise. And also his aproach with the databases. For me it would be important to include sources for the species (There might be a barter/exchange plattform which I don't know yet and/or for which I'm too naiv to use). This seems me a problem especially for less common ones. Another problem here is the shipping time: Bamboos, Bananas, Pineapples, Grapes, if I want specific varieties must be shipped as seedlings, rootlings, offshoot or cuttings also animals. They might die during the long (mostly 2 to 3 months) travel.

From the radio I think the sender is called S2 Baden-Wuerttemberg sucsessor of SWR2. There are to Series about intellectual topics. One is S2 Wissen and the other S2 Aula. I frequently listened to this daily Series. One morning the Topic was somehow like: "Growing Citrons in 1500m above sea level in the siberia of Austria". This was about Sepp Holzers Krameter Hof. Soon after that I visited Sepp Holzer to join a Farm Tour were he guided us 8 h over his Farm. I asked Sepp about a Project I probably could join. He mentioned Kinder der Zukunft of Bernd Gerken. I went there for one week. This was all I could afford. I also condidered to study Permculture in a course. But there were only Permaculture Design Courses. The word Design irritated me because I wanted to learn all about Permaculture. I didn't even understand that design is an important part of Permaculture. Therefore I distanciated myself from taking a PDC. Currently I study the classic "Permaculture, A Designers' Manual" from Bill Mollison. It seems me that this is a good alternative for taking a PDC. Of course other Resources like what you linked to might be necessary for further details in certain topics. Thank you for this. And of course practical exercise is essential.

Hi, Maureen,

Here is a Video of how I eat Elephant-grass (= Nappier-grass)

I hope that will make you going. It.s delicious anyway.
If your plants have enough water and you throw soil on the plants, they make new shoots.
So, enjoy watching a human Gorilla.

Hi Maureen,

Middle October I visited my former landlord in Cagayan de Oro. He told me, that he and the kids around him ate the young shoots of Napier grass when he was small because it was so sweet. He became a tall guy.
Yes, there are these tiny hairs. I can not confirm, that they are itchy. After removing them from the skin there is no irritation anymore. I don't mind the hairs. Maybe J figured out how to hold it without getting much of then stuck in the skin. Maybe I make a slight turning movement with my hand so that the hairs break and don't enter into the skin anymore. There are different varieties of Napier grass. There are with many, little and no hairs. On my farm, I think I have a variety with moderate hairiness. On the place of my wife, the Napier has many hairs but I don't treat them differently. In traditional Celtic medicine, they used branches with thorns and needles to spread and by this weaken the energy of illnesses. So by handling the Napier grass, you get a free reflex-zone treatment on your palms. I can not remember when I had to pull out the hairs of Napier grass from my skin anymore and I remember, years ago, I did pull out hairs of Napier grass from my skin.

Thank you for the tip with aliexpress and sharing your experiences with it. I think I will also try to order there.

I would be interested, to see your chick brooding project. I am planning on making Paddock shift with goats and chickens. Maybe I can get some impulse of how to start.

best regards

Christoph