Gary Fisher

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That’s too bad Brian.  Hopefully the new company saved the mold.
2 years ago
Okay Brian,

Thanks for your quick reply.
Gary
3 years ago
Brian,

Is the only size that is available,  the 6 in ID?  I'm planning on building an 8 in system.  
Thank you.
Gary
3 years ago
Thanks Max and Peter for your replies.  I understand better now.
Gary
3 years ago

Peter van den Berg wrote:

Robert Dearborn wrote:One feature im unclear on from the sketches and the podcast - is there a heat riser  inside the barrel above the heater ? What is its proportion ?  Im assuming it doesnt reach to within 2"  of the underside of THAT monster barrel !


Your assumption is spot on, there is a riser inside the barrels. It's reaching up to about 3 to 4 inches below the top of the first one, so the top gap is one barrel plus 3". The riser is an 8" ceramic fiber tube, it could be shorter but it is being used as a whole.



The space around the riser and the firebricks is filled in with a perlite/clay slip in order to fix it in place.



The barrels happened to be open-top types. Ernie adviced to fit the lid around the riser and cut open the bottom end of both the stacked drums. It is even possible to extend the tower with yet another  barrel. The gap between the riser and the hole in the lid is stuffed with superwool, of course.



When cutting, one inch of the bottom has been left around the perimeter, this way there's a better chance the barrel would stay circular.



This question is for Max or Peter.  I asked Max earlier about this top gap,  and here it appears that the gap is three inches plus a whole barrel above the riser.  I seemed to understand from Max,  that the top gap is 8 inches from the top of an 8 in riser.   What did I miss in my interpretation?  
3 years ago

Glenn Herbert wrote:US standard firebricks are 4 1/2" x 9" x 2 1/2" or sometimes 3", so they should almost precisely make up the 17 7/8" height from the chart. I have seen off-brand firebricks with smaller dimensions, maybe 4 1/4" x 8 1/2". Be aware of the possibility if buying firebricks from different sources.



Yes,  those are my dimensions for my bricks.  Thanks
Gary
3 years ago
Thank you Max for your answers.  I appreciate it.  Thanks for the link as well.  

Just to clarify your answer on barrel gap,  for an 8 in riser,  you meant the 8 inch gap is the gap between the riser and the edge of the barrel,  right?  
The other "gap",  is the space from the top of the riser to the top of the second barrel.  I understood that the riser should go up to about three inches below the top of the first barrel,  and then place another barrel on top of that.    Did I get that wrong?  

Sure enjoying looking at the link you sent.  Thanks again


Gary
3 years ago
Two more questions please.

1.  In this design,  the p channel doesn't run down the length of the firebox,  but seems to start right in front of the barrel.  Didn't you need it to go the full length to get cooler air?  This would be sucking in pretty hot air at this position.  Does either way work as well?

2.  In the following picture,  does this piece of round riser go down to the floor of the stove,  and have a hole cut in it to match the port?  
3 years ago
Hello,  A buddy of mine and myself are planning on making one of these, and we had a few questions.  

1.  Because our bricks here in the USA are most likely of different dimensions than yours were, we get a firebox that is an inch or two higher than the spreadsheet says it should be for our proposed 8 inch system.  Is that enough difference,  that we should consider ripping the top row, to get our height exactly 17-14/16?

2.  My buddy has purchased some concrete fire brick chimney liners.  They are 7x7 inside .   First,  are these a good enough material to handle the temps we will get?  He was hoping to use them for the riser.  I understand, that we would need to go down to the 7 in system.   Could this "riser" be set right on the floor of the stove,  and cut a hole in it,  matching the port,  or should it be set up higher, like you did the round riser, in this design?

3.  If I chose to make my riser all of firebricks,  would I simply make an 8 x 8 inch riser directly behind the port,  without any other brick around it,  or do I need another brick " wall". To support the barrels,  and also fill with perlite,  to the level of the top of the firebox,  where the riser enters the barrels?   Did that question make sense?  

4.  I understand that the riser goes to about three inches below the level of the first barrel, and then another barrel is on top of that.   My buddy questioned why there is a whole Barrel more of gap over the riser, as opposed to the typical rocket stove,  where you have a two to three inch gap.  Has it to do with the amount of heat that is going up the riser?

I will include some pics of what we quickly stacked up to give an idea where we are headed.  

Thank you for your time.  I'm sure I forgot half the questions I had.  

3 years ago