Tyrone White

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wayne fajkus wrote:If you want to start in pots, put them in the fridge, inside a ziploc bag. After the appropriate chill hours, they will sprout.

I haven't tried it first hand but it makes sense. The one drawback i can think of is confusion by the plant. If it sprouts and its not when nature would do it.....



So back to the "refrigerator vs. freezer" question.  I like freezer because if the point is to crack the nut, the freezer seems more likely to do this, but then the freeze might damage some/most/all of the seeds inside (whatever the word is for the inner thing inside: "ovule?" I just looked this up on Wikipedia). Anyways, that's burning question number one, atm.  Because I'm motivated to get going on this.

As far as being out of sync with nature, etc... I'm really less concerned with actually growing peaches into trees as I am experimenting with getting the pits to germinate.  You have to understand I've been wrestling with the "Peach Pits in my Compost: Yes or No?" question for years.  It's really become an issue for me.  Humana told me they don't consider this grounds for PTSD and so they won't cover the Therapy, but still I maintain it's necessary.  So it's either paying for a Therapist out-of-pocket, or determining once and for all whether or not I can make something useful out of peach pits.  The sooner I find out, the less likely people are to see me featured on the Evening News.
3 months ago

Judith Browning wrote:You might find something helpful here  https://permies.com/t/23607/Propagating-Blood-cling-Peaches



Thanks for that.  It answered a question I had, but didn't ask yet, about whether or not you should try to "manually" crack the pits before planting.  The OP of the linked post that none of those that they cracked germinated, so that's one thing I'm not going to try.
3 months ago

Bryant RedHawk wrote:The ideal method is to go out in the fall (before the first frost) and play squirrel, what I mean by that is that you will take your peach pits and go plant them in the soil (plant as deep as the pit is tall) then mark that spot somehow so you will know where you planted.
Dig the hole then lay the pit on its side and cover with the soil. (I use surveyor flags to mark tree seeds)
From that point, just walk away, you will come back the next spring to see how many germinated.

Peaches grown in tree nurseries are placed in buckets of moist sand and set in a walk in fridge for 60 days to stratify them, this fridge is not a constant temp but it is moved from 30 f to 45f every so often so nature is mimicked.
It is far easier to just let nature do this step for you and just as reliable.
The freeze, thaw, freeze, thaw cycle allows the germ to split open the pit in the spring so it can grow into a peach tree.

The ideal time to plant a peach pit is after the peach has been eaten.
If you happen to get  some peaches that are too ripe to eat, just dig a shallow pit and place the whole peach in the pit and pull the soil back around the rotting peach.
Nature will do the rest for you.

That elementary school tree seed was most likely an avocado pit and it was suspended by tooth pick in a glass of water, no additives needed.



Bryant,
Thanks for the fast response.

I'd like to start the pits in small pots, maybe dixie cups or something, and then transfer those that germinate "somewhere else".  I have dogs, and very poor caliche soil, and I don't think simply dropping them in the dirt is a viable option. 

Is it possible to do some sort of variation on the 5-gallon bucket method, only using smaller containers?  Also you said "walk in fridge", but then you said "freeze, thaw, freeze, thaw...".  Couldn't I just put the seeds in the freezer and THEN plant them?  Or, at least put the seeds into paper cups, and then put the cups in the freezer.  Seems to me that freezing and thawing over say a week's time would be faster than waiting all winter.  It rarely freezes here in South Texas, maybe twice in ten years, on average.  If I can plant them right after they are eaten, then I assume that allowing them to dry provides no benefit?

Out of 50 peach pits, how many (what percentage) do you think would germinate?
3 months ago
I compost every single thing that comes out of my kitchen that's compostable, and I can't bring myself to put peach pits into my compost pile, nor I can I bear the idea of throwing them away.  Sure, it's a OCD situation, but there are worse ways of being crazy.

Anyways, I have about 50 peach pits I've saved over the years, plus a handful of fresh ones.  Theoretically I know peach trees come from peach pits, but exactly how to make that happen.  Devil/details, etc...

So I think "Let's replicate nature and FREEZE them.", but then I think that might ruin them.  Or dry them out first?  If so, why?  Or could I take a fresh peach pit, drop it in some dirt and wait for it to sprout?  If so, how long does it take?

I don't like any of the online sites I find because they seem formulated (like eHow), probably written by people that didn't know anything about anything, but instead skimmed someone else's dubious information and wrote a synapsis, which I'm then expected to follow.  Nope.  Don't want to plant a bunch of pits and then wait for months to find out nothing is ever going to happen.  Would prefer to get the "how to" information from someone that's actually done it.

When I was a kid in elementary school, we suspended some seed-or-other in water and watched it "germinate".  Can't remember what kind of seed.  Not certain it was just water.  Maybe fortified with something like "Miracle Grow"?

Anyways, people could get some sense of the mind that's asking this probably very basic question.  I'll find 1,000 different ways to do it the wrong way unless someone gives me clear directions with some idea of why it needs to be a certain way, and not another.  The "freezing or drying" question is my biggest one.  Also "dirt vs. water", "fresh vs. aged" pits, and "how long from planting to germination.

I live in South Texas, in case I actually get something to sprout, and I've read a bit of information on "cross pollination", etc... but I think the 1st step is to get something growing.  Assume it will take years before anything bears fruit.  Thought about making sprouts (seedlings, whatever the correct word is) and then giving them away, or even selling them.  I'm just beginning to develop some interest in "growing things", and right now I'm in the "keeping my wife's houseplants from dying" stage.  Discovered Miracle Grow about 2 weeks ago, and was amazed at how pale & sickly-looking plants suddenly had dark green leaves.  Usually they just withered away and died.  So now I'm motivated to try planting peach pits, if possible.  Any help appreciated, and thanks in advance.
3 months ago