Mikey Good

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We're a young professional couple who are looking to transition to a homestead lifestyle over the next few years.
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Definitely not looking to sever or sell any of it (actually hoping to add to it over time), but looking for people who'd like to build a farm business on the land, mostly on a barter basis. For instance, if you wanted to run cattle, it would need to be fenced. Cattle farmer would need to build the fence in exchange for term on the lease - ie, if fencing costs $15,000, then we'd set the lease term based on the market rate for organic grazing land ($x per cow, per day).

Ideal fits would be:
- herbivore grazing operation (cows, sheep)
- pastured pork
- pastured poultry (though probably a bit late to start this year, and tough to source chicks)
- market garden

4 years ago
We've sourced ours from a variety of small producers this year:

Terra Edibles: https://www.terraedibles.ca/
Urban Harvest: https://uharvest.ca/shop/
Hawthorn Creek: https://hawthornfarm.ca/

Hawthorn Creek seem to have the best germination rates, and fastest turnaround. Urban Harvest has been our go-to for years, but has been very slow to respond, and to fill orders this year. Terra Edibles we've had some mixed results with germination - certain varieties just aren't taking.

We've got squash seeds coming out our ears, so if you need any of those, drop me a PM.
4 years ago
Thanks all!

Nicky was bang on. I reached out to Sustain Ontario, which did much of the lobbying for the Artisinal Program, and their response (posted with permission):

The gap is definitely intentional. This was a big step for Chicken Farmers of Ontario, no other province has a program like it, so they were addressing a lot of insecurities and unknowns.
CFO wanted a way to guarantee that folks who joined that program were serious. Their members were reassured by the hands-on control of the Artisanal program, and CFO wanted to target their resources for this new program to make sure that those who joined had the best chance to succeed.
The gap was a way to say "if you feel a need to do more than 300 meat hens, show us that you have a market beyond your farm gate, show us that you have guaranteed access to slaughter capacity, and if that's the case, three batches of 200 shouldn't be a challenge."
As to whether there are plans to alter that gap, i doubt it. Right now they're far more concerned about maintaining slaughter capacity for small and mid-sized producers. I don't know how it is in your region, but in eastern Ontario it's a challenge to find reasonably local feather facilities that will take small batches, and they're booking nearly a year in advance.



So, 100 layers at a time, 300 meat birds in a year.

The local feed store tracks (and presumably reports) feed purchases as well as chicks.

Also, sounds like there's a real business opportunity for a small scale slaughterhouse focused on home producers and those in the Artisinal program.

Now we know!
4 years ago
So we're starting to raise chickens for ourselves this year - on a modest scale to start with - and I've been digging in to the laws regulating the number of birds.

I see that the "Family Food" program allows up to 300 meat birds for personal use without quota and with simple registration, and the "Artisinal Chicken" program allows 600-3,000 birds for sale/distribution without quota, but with an additional registration/fee on a per-chick basis.

But what about the 300-600 meat bird window? Anyone have any insight?
4 years ago
Chris, sorry I missed your message! We got caught up in the work of our projects, and we don't have internet at the farm to boot!

I'll drop you a DM.
4 years ago
Hi all! We just bought a farm in Quinte West, about 10 minutes north of Trenton. We got it for the peace and quiet, projects, and to grow our own food, however it's far more land than we need. We have hopes of finding a farmer to work the acreage.

It's 35+ acres, with about 25 in pasture (some being cut for hay, the rest fallow), and about 10 acres in mid-succession mixed bush. Spring-fed well at the top of the property can run plenty of excellent water to everywhere without a pump. Not fenced. Paved road access, and multiple entry points to the acreage. Man-made pond and multiple spring-fed streams. Land hasn't been sprayed in 25 years for sure, possibly ever.

Looking for regenerative farmers who are looking for land to work. It'd be your operation, but we'd like chip in so that we can learn the basics. Our vision is a closed-loop, integrated farm built on permaculture principles. It could be one farmer who does everything, or a number of farmers with mutually supporting operations. We're very open to barter (meat, dairy, produce) as rent.

Priority #1 for us is getting cows and/or sheep on grass. The fallow field could use goats and/or pigs to help move it towards silvopasture.

Pastured poultry for meat and/or eggs would be a great add-on.

Also open to market gardeners, land-race grain farming, and the like.

If you're interested, say hi, and let's talk!

5 years ago

Roy Hinkley wrote:The Environmental Commissioner of Ontario (ECO) is cautioning the Ministry of Natural Resources and Forestry (MNRF) that assessment changes by the Municipal Property Assessment Commission (MPAC) are likely to be detrimental to the forests of Ontario. The MNRF manages a program called the Managed Forest Tax Incentive Program (MFTIP) which offers a property tax reduction for landowners who join the program in exchange for following the prescribed forest management practices of the MNRF. The program, introduced in 1997, is very popular with more than 10,700 landowners participating by 2004.

The problem, according to the ECO, is that another branch of the Ontario government is jeopardizing the program by changing the assessment rules. Around 2003, MPAC began changing its methods of assessing managed forests such that they were assessed for their potential value for residential or commercial development rather than at the same rate, as promised by MNRF in 1997, as farmlands.

https://ontariolandowners.ca/news/a-cautionary-tale-from-the-environmental-commissioner-of-ontario-by-shirley-dolan/



I'd imagine that the current government wouldn't give many hoots about woodlands...
5 years ago

Jess Dee wrote:
To the OP, Mikey - what are you using chicken wire for?  We've found it is so fragile that it is basically useless, and needs near-constant replacing or repair.  For keeping chickens contained, even plastic snow fence is sturdier.  For actual coops/corrals/chicken runs, I would recommend much heavier fencing that you can also use to keep in (or out!) other types of animals.  Our chicken run is designed to hold goats in, which is probably overkill, but it sure was handy when we needed a place to quarantine a goat.  It has also kept a determined dog out, not to mention the wildlife.  



Thinking as protection for strawberries and other high-value fruit that deer like to browse.

Jess Dee wrote:I would personally start basically two of each type of fruit tree you want, right off the bat - they take for-ev-er to produce fruit.  To your two apples and two pears, if you have the space, I would add a couple of plums, peaches, and sweet cherries (and I gotta say, I'm a bit jealous of your ability to grow peaches and sweet cherries!).  



Budget is always a concern, of course, but the several recommendations on peaches (and my love of cherries) will probably inform November's tree orders...

Jess Dee wrote:Regarding equipment, I'd say wait and buy it as you need it, especially if you are planning on buying it new anyhow.  It's easy to get loaded up on tools, and find out they aren't the tools you really needed.  The things we use the most at our place are shovels, spades, pruning shears, and a bow saw; your situation might be totally different.  I have a good collection of nearly-new tools that I thought I would need, but really didn't.  Of course, if you can snag something on a great deal at a yard sale, that's a completely different story.



Makes sense! We'll also see what the previous owners leave behind! Fingers crossed!
5 years ago

David Baillie wrote:Where abouts in ontario I'm somewhere between zone 3 and 4 near Bancroft.



We will be in the Trenton area, provided that the closing goes well!
5 years ago
As a starting point, you might want to find your local stewardship council:

http://www.ontariostewardship.org/
5 years ago