Lem Huang

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Jen Fulkerson wrote:.... I wonder if you covered the area with black plastic, and didn't water if that would kill it out?...
Good luck



Thank you for replying Jen.  Yes, that would work also, but we wanted to reduce the use of plastics.  We will be trying out some cardboard at a designated area in the garden.

Rebecca Norman wrote:My experiences with mint and containing mint.

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2b) Kashmiri mint walnut chutney
https://recipes.timesofindia.com/recipes/walnut-and-mint-chutney/rs58430697.cms
1 cup walnuts
1/2 cup mint leaves
water as required
2 cloves garlic
1 to 3 green chillies
salt as required
Soak the walnuts for one hour.
Then grind up the nuts, mint, garlic, and 1 of the chillies to a fine paste or puree, adding water as required.
Add salt and more chillies to taste.



Thank you Rebecca!  I will definitely give this recipe a go.

Robert Ray wrote:We had a friend who was in a supervisor position on Dutch Harbor. My wife wanted and adventure and took an office position for a year. She didn't work in the processing facility, but she explained how absolutely nothing went to the waste stream, from the processing. I'm sure even if you were to macerate the waste and bottle it like Alaskan Fish Fertilizer, I buy in a gallon jug you're going to have to jump through some hoops. Just how expensive those hoops would be is the question.



Yes, you are absolutely right about working through the red tape.
2 years ago

Christopher Weeks wrote:

Lem Huang wrote:If so, wouldn't microbes rob nitrogen from the soil to break the cardboard down?


My impression is that this happens only at the very thin membrane between the layers and doesn't really have much effect on nitrogen availability in the strata below.



Thank you Christopher.  I'll try a few sections in the garden this spring.

Alicia Bayer wrote:I have some bully mint too, but what I do is just treat it as a wonderful free volunteer and I cut it to the ground whenever I see it and use it.  There are so many uses for mints that it's easy to make use of. Here are 30 great ways to use mint. It eventually gives up and just grows elsewhere for me.

PS  If you have chocolate mint I found that I could transplant mine to a shade area and it became the most fabulous groundcover.  It stays rather low and pretty, with dark leaves, and when you walk on it the entire yard smells heavenly.  It spreads well even in shade but not in the aggressive way that other mints do.  I have shared it with so many friends for problem shady areas of their yard.



Thank you for that excellent article on mint use. I've decided to use all the mint in the garden in a positive way.  I also looked through the website and like it very much.

Gray Henon wrote:+1 for biochar.  We put 6 inches of raw charcoal in the bottom of a plastic 55 gallon drum with a few drain holes in the bottom, then around 30-40 gallons of fish waste, then top with around a foot of raw charcoal.  The fish composts with minimal odor 50 ft or so from our deck.



Hi Gray.  I say really?  That's amazing. 30-40 gallons of fish.  That's quite a bit. Please, I'd appreciate if you could tell me more.

Do you put the fish waste into the drum in large chunks?

How long (what's your average temperature?) does it take for the 30-40 gallons of fish waste to break down? Or when is is ready to use? When the odour completely disappears?

Do you collect and use the liquid draining out of the holes of the drum?

Do insects and critters get into the drum?

How would you store the finished compost if you had to keep on processing new fish waste on an ongoing basis?
2 years ago

Jean Rudd wrote:I have a very aggressive mentos mint that I accidentally set loose on my first year gardening here in Colorado.  Now it is everywhere! Almost everything you do will be temporary -- good for a season or two. Here, it even has grown under the concrete patio and come out the other side.

My best tips for removal are:

1) If the mint is in your vegetable garden space, keep making deep soil.  I used a double dig method to jump-start the clay soils here, then started deep mulching every year, and 2 years ago started "no-dig" wood chip mulching.  The soil has consistently improved every year to where it is almost loose and rich.  Which just makes the mint want to grow there more!  But the loose, rich soil makes it very easy to pull out the mint.

2) Pull out everything you don't want.  You will undoubtedly miss some and it will still come back anyway.

3) Get it in spring while it is small.  And then again later in fall when it sends out runners.

4) Feed it to your chickens after removal.  In fact, if you plant it in your chicken run, it's the one place where it doesn't stand a chance.  Chickens trump mint.  You can try letting them "tractor" over the area, but if they aren't in the space continually, the mint will grow back.

5) Learn to love it.  Start making lots of mint recipes.  Mint ice cream is particularly good.  Mint tea is always a favorite and it makes lovely gifts.

Good luck.



Hi Jean,  thank you for those helpful tips.  I'll direct the chickens to spend blocks of time in designated areas of the garden.  You gave me an idea also to see if I can come up with new recipes using mint.

Ted Abbey wrote:I had a weather event that killed all of the big tilapia in my pond. I put a bunch at the base of my fruit trees, and I put others in buckets with small holes in the bottom. I placed these near growing areas, and would fill them with water for a slow release watering/fertilizing. You can make you own emulsion or hydrolysate as well, but that’s extra steps and processes. How about composting them in wood chips? I’ve done this with poultry guts and feathers when I worked on a poultry farm.. it smelled awful, but created beautiful soil.



Thank you Ted.  Creating some holes in buckets with nitrogen rich scraps in them for watering is a cool idea.  
2 years ago

Phil Stevens wrote:Do you have (or have access to) biochar? My experience with fish hydrolysate and emulsion is that they are some of the stinkiest substances around. Anything that smells that nasty is usually good for growing food and also massively beneficial for soil life. We've found that soaking biochar with fish "soup" completely deodorizes it in a day or two, which is a real bonus for the humans involved in the process of getting it where it needs to go.

At the most recent biochar workshop I helped run, our hosts had a bucket of kīna juice (basically shells and scraps from sea urchins) that had been sitting in the sun for about six weeks. This, to date, is the only thing I've been close to that blows away fish hydrolysate as far as stench goes. Needless to say, this became our inoculation candidate. They told me a few days later that the smell was nearly gone.



Thank you Phil.  I will definitely give biochar a go for odour control.  Was initially thinking sawdust might work.
2 years ago

S Bengi wrote:

1) You could also feed the fish waste directly to poultry or fish
2) Add some water kefir microbes to the fish waste then feed it you poultry/fishes
3) You could feed it to black soldier flies, and then feed those to poultry or other fishes.
4) Add the fish waste to some woodchip/hay/etc and then run poultry thru it to farm bugs and make compost quickly.
5) The fish waste plus some woodchip/hay could be used to warmup a greenhouse as it is composted  



Those are awesome suggestions. Thank you.  I never thought of using the fish wastes to harvest the bugs for other uses.

I'm new to all this.  Yesterday, I read processing of fish wastes is a smelly issue.  and it will attract a lot of insects, so using the bugs makes perfect sense.

Do you have suggestions or sources on how to keep the strong odour and bug swarm under control? How to capture the bug and frass?

Edited after:  I just read Phil's suggestion above using biochar for odour control which I'll definitely try.

2 years ago