Gaurī Rasp wrote:Myron, thank you re: the info on using black walnut hulls in the garden. I threw most of them around the edge of the garden which gets built up w all the weeds I pull & it all composts down.
Now I’m on to cracking the walnuts…the first one I tried wouldn’t even open w a small sledge hammer! Yikes! Another foraging labor of love!
Gaurī Rasp wrote:
Currently I’m collecting, husking, cleaning & curing the abundant black walnuts on our land. I watched tons of videos to get the easiest methods but is this a labor of love! ♥️
Chris Kott wrote:I hate it, because I would prefer to be able to proceed naively forward, with all people my friends, and all animals attuned to the wonder that I wish to bestow upon the earth, so they won't dig up and nibble all my hard fucking toil.
People are like animals. We are, in fact, animals. We are just arguably more complex. Well some of us, anyways. In any event, I have always thought that intentional community missed the point entirely.
If the point of the community is only to have a community, it's integrity is reliant solely on shared vision, which is fallacy. Nobody sees anything from the same perspective. Our individual eyes don't even see the same picture; our brains have to work out the differences and merge the images, along with input from our other senses, into a single coherent comprehension.
My feeling is, as with any human endeavour, that the point of community must make itself of substantial value to some group of individuals, in terms of sustaining them materially as a community. So a community devoted to, say, the restoration and controlled management of a herd of bison would do their good ecological works in plains management, and the community would thrive off an annual culling of all but a tenth of the male population (in actuality, the numbers required for a healthy breeding herd, from what I have read, involve one bull for every twenty cows, but diversity is better).
What is critical about this is that the financial impetus of the meat and hides from the yearly cull would be too great an incentive to allow pettiness and infighting to dominate, and would make it necessary to structure elements of the community as a business, such that it is possible to have dispute resolution tied to a financial incentive for the whole group.
So I think that people shouldn't just start communities. I think that the only way to make community sustainable is if there is a central "industry," in the way that industries of centuries past essentially built company towns to house workers as that community's largest employer, and would invest in supportive and service industry businesses.
It needn't be destructive or extractive in nature. Intensive and extensive range management in conjunction with a herd revitalisation and renewal program for bison could result in annual herd growth of something approaching a third, if I am remembering correctly, and the corresponding biosphere rejuvenation of a keystone species doing what it should never have stopped doing.
It also needn't necessarily involve stepping into the ecological niche as predator every time, although from honey bee to the largest bovine, it's hard to argue with the resource-concentrating ability of animals simply living their best lives. If you have a community coming together lousy with textile artists, it's logical that your community's financial impetus be textile-related.
I do realise that the idea expounded about community on this site is that the ideal, the opimum and ultimate permacultural level indicates that we share our roof with near two-dozen other people; I reject that idea. Of all the animal kindreds, we humans are closest to wolves. That is why some of their children came to live with our ancestors, and continue to be important parts of our lives today. Packs only get so large, and can only have one leading voice, one Alpha or pack leader. I think that humans are much the same.
I think farming villages are probably the best format we could possibly look at in terms of designing a resilient, sustainable community that grows. If the annual harvest fails, everyone suffers, so historically speaking, even those who were usually drunk and barely ever reliable for anything most of the year-round would sober up and work twenty-hour days, at a pace that would kill most people in the western world today, for planting and harvesting. Starving if the work doesn't get done is a powerful incentive.
At the same time, while community could be close, close enough to share a community heating and cogeneration facility, say, they would also each have their own households, should they choose to. I would expect there to be some accomodation, either in-town, or perhaps a billet system, for single people wishing to defray individual costs by joining a household or staying in communal housing with shared facilities and common space.
It sounds like Andy has turned the idea of permacultural community into its raison d'etre; rent generates the income, which is brought in by people largely working off-site, and a paid permacultural groundskeeper makes the magic happen. I am glad it's working for him, but I would be looking for another financial tie for the community's next iteration. A commuters' bubble sounds like a tenuous financial footing to me.
But I wish him good luck, and hope that perhaps Andy will post here and give us some of his insight.