John Desrosiers

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Florida is a very interesting and challenging place. We host as natives nearly half of the tree species native to North America ( including Mexico ). I read about 1000 for North America and about 460 for Florida. We have about 150 in this biodiversity hot spot near Tallahassee.

We are also low and suffering sea level rise. Some developments near my home town have already been abandoned. I moved north to higher ground just to be safe.

I welcome Paul and other members of the Permie community to come this far south and see our challenges and to see the benefits too. I know I would learn a lot. And, hopefully have something to share.

Cardboard rots really quickly, so we use planks sometimes.
There are two types of structures which seem to me to make sense in the climate of the tropical south.

The first kind is the most common. You see the “Cracker House”, or “Maylay House” type repeated in hot humid climates around the world. This is an elevated wooden structure with wide overhangs, open verandas, and good air circulation. An added feature in Florida is that if you build the first floor ten or so feet high, there are few mosquitoes. I think this is the first choice.

The second type is best represented by the French Colonial palaces of the aristocracy in Louisiana. These are solid brick masonry structures with thick walls that are thermally in contact with the soil and also wick moisture from the soil. This offers a little evaporative cooling, but more often adds to the shoe rotting humidity. The average temperature of Florida’s climate hovers around a perfect 70 degrees. 3-6 foot thick walls allow the interior of the home to keep close to the average by moderating the summer’s heat with the winter’s cold. The seasonal temperature variations soak through about 3 feet of masonry in a season. The downside is moldy shoes, belts, clothes , and furniture. I thought this was the best till I priced a modest 900 square foot structure at over one million dollars in bricks alone. You see this type also expressed in some coral and coquina block houses at the immediate and breezy coast. I have never seen this type of architecture in the hotter, more humid, and oppressingly windless interior where I live.

I guess I forgot the third type of structure. It has some of the better features of the first two types, but is also actually affordable and possible for the average person. It is a modern architecture with solar panels, gardens, strategically planted trees, and an air conditioner for temperature and humidity management. I think these days, all considered, that a concrete block or brick home(being structural not decorative), with a galvanized steel framed and clad roof, and large screened airy overhangs, is in fact the cheapest, most durable, and most sustainable healthy home for the tropical Deep South. Untreated and un-dehumidified wood is food for molds, termites, and other wood destroying organisms around here.

I apologize for the run-on sentences, I’m not an English grammar major. I have lived in Florida since 1978. I’ve been paying attention to architectural styles. The third type is my chosen.
3 years ago
It’s too hot in Florida for bags in the sun. We use paragon grafting tape for that purpose.

They can take about 125 degrees
3 years ago
I spray horticultural oil in the winter and spinosad in the summer for woolies. You must use a tolerant rootstock too. I use Geneva 41 or M111

john@quincynursery.com
3 years ago
Rootstock selection is the first consideration. I use Geneva 41 and M111. Next choose a variety tolerant to your local diseases. I’m in a wet 8b in Florida. We have high pest and disease pressure. So I like modern types like Enterprise and a few other PRI varieties. I have collected every variety I can. Some are very hard to grow organically. All require proper pruning, training, and spraying. They also require stripping every leaf off to induce dormancy. I do this around January 1st.

Contact me a john@quincynursery.com for trees or more information.

Fun fact, Brazil, Indonesia, and Africa grow apples in areas with little to no chill.
3 years ago