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Brand new panels in canada go for around $0.88-0.90/watt so don't even bother buying used questionable panels for $0.75/watt.

Keep shopping and you might get lucky.  The issue in canada is embargo's and protectionist market systems, china makes and sells panels for at or under $0.20/watt but both canada and the usa blockade anyone getting those prices to protect canadian and american solar manufacturers.  in the USA you can get around that a bit here and there with some options but not in Canada to any of my knowledge so you're paying the usual canadian premium courtesy of our government.

https://www.wegosolar.com/categories.php?category=Solar-Panels

Thats where I've bought my panels from before, 500w panels look like they're down to around 0.77/watt and those are new panels.  Thats the opposite side of the country from you but still canadian market so you should expect to be able to find something of that nature that you can purchase from.
1 year ago

Daniel Kaplan wrote:Hi Mike,
You've bit off a big project. I started work on a similar system but you're quite a bit more ambitious than I was.  Others have run through most of the practicalities. I was going to mention line loss from the panels to your house but someone beat me to most of it. Same with how fast you can charge different batteries. I can, however, add a little to line loss on your runs from the barn to the house. In electrical circles it's called voltage drop and it's pretty much solely based on how many amps and what size wire. A 10A load running over 10A wire is going to lose as many volts for a 12v system as for a 120v system. But you'll get 10x the power through on the higher voltage system. That's why panels and batteries are commonly run in series.
For example your initial 6 330 watt panels on the barn all in series. (my 260W panels are 37V open-circuit so I'm using those numbers.)
First off, I'd guess you won't get a straight shot. Estimate it's probably 250' of wire. (Might be optimistic)
The panels will, under laboratory conditions make 222V @8.9A
Run that the 250' to the house using #10 wire and you'll lose 5.1V or around 45 watts
Using #12 wire you'll lose 8.2v, or 73W
Using #14wire you're at 13V or 116W
however, one leaf or patch of snow on one of those panels will cut your production significantly. Not sure if it's more or less than half.
So obviously having panels close to the house would be better if you had sun exposure.
I'm not sure how much useful sun you'll get in WI. I'm in CO and have trees running north-south on both sides of the house. I've been getting about 1kwh per day out of 520w of solar panels. You'll need more than you think.

Definitely invest in a good clamp ammeter like a fluke 275 so you can measure the startup currents on stuff. Kill-a-watt meters are good two but for two things: Neither of mine will tell me startup current and they only measure Watt-hours and not Volt-Amp-Hours. Watts don't actually tell you how much is being drawn from your panels or batteries. Watts is only how much energy is going to useful work but not how much is going toward inefficiencies. And these can be significant for anything with a motor, which is most of what you listed. Your kill-a-watt will give you power factor. Basically a power factor is the percentage of total energy that's producing work. So if your freezer has a PF of 70, which is completely within the realm of possibility, the watts you're measuring toward watt-hours is only 70% of the total power you're using. Most computer and cell phone chargers are abysmally low, as well. I think my computer one has a PF of 52.
Personally my system is completely isolated from any or my house wiring. I have to unplug an appliance from the wall and plug it into my off-grid system. I've thought of running dedicated wires from the inverter to a different-colored outlet next to strategic appliances I might want to power. If you're wanting to integrate your off-grid system into house wiring you need to invest in transfer switches and a lot of knowledge in how to set them up safely.

When I was first starting to tinker with this I was trying to come up with a system that I could expand. Unfortunately you want your batteries to be matched (no pairing old ones with new) or you run the risk of your batteries discharging each other. I'm not sure how big of a problem this really is. I wanted to go with Lifepo4 batteries since they claim a much longer lifespan and greater depth of discharge. Unfortunately in the end I decided that they were too expensive for the amount I'll use them plus they're a relatively new technology. Lead-acid is a much more mature technology. I figure when I get ready to upgrade to Lifepo4 they'll have gotten cheaper the tech will have matured. Sure they claim 8-10k cycles now but will they? Sort of like how 10yr LED bulbs burn out in a few months or a couple years now.
In the mean time I decided to go with a pair of Trojan T-105's (6V, 220Ah). They'll run my chest freezer for about a day and a half without sun. The freezer draws 68W when running but when first turned on it draws in excess of a kW. My 1200W inverter can't handle that without using its soft-start setting. Or, maybe more likely, my batteries don't like putting out 100A to power it. Putting another set of batteries in parallel to these might make it work better. I don't know.
Whenever the time comes to upgrade I'll  probably just start another system based on everything I've learned here. For instance I'd want a 24 or 48V system for anything running an inverter but I have lots of stuff that runs off 12V. If I don't have to run an inverter that's a lot of power savings.
For instance you could have one system in your barn for barn loads and one system for your house.

Charging you're wife's Prius has its own issues. I assume it has an AC charger but the batteries need DC. Going DC -> AC -> DC will have a lot of loss. If you can find a DC charge controller for it you'll be ahead of the game. The author of http://aprs.org/my-EVs.html has experimented some with charging Prius's off solar and may have some insights on how to best do that conversion.
You might be able to use the Prius as a generator for recharging your batteries when the sun isn't shining.

Personally I think I'd recommend making a smaller system to power one load and trying it out for a year or two before throwing a whole lot of money at it. Otherwise, keep doing a lot of research so you get it right (don't get it too wrong?) the first time.

Oh, one more thing. Working with high voltage DC is a bit more dangerous than working with AC. If you accidentally grab onto an AC wire there are 120 times a second when it has 0 volts on it and thus give you a chance to let go. DC gives you no such reprieve.



Daniel,

I myself ran some DC loads on my 48v system.  12v is definitely the easiest to get equipment for as lots of RV stuff (such as a low wattage DC water pump that I used for our water pressure boost) run on 12v.

The best thing about anything motor based thats running DC motors is you avoid that massive impedance spike from startup as well.  AC motors generate impedance when they're starting because their cycle isn't matching the 60hz necessary for them to run optimally, DC motors are linear in their power consumption that way in that you don't get insane impedance spikes when they're under load.

For example my wife had a kitchenaid AC motor mixer, 350 watts.  When making bread though, once the dough was starting to stiffen up the wattage would spike up to around 1500 watts due to the impedance that was happening because the motor was slowing down too much and not running at its optimal 60hz to align with the AC power.  We bought her a more expensive kitchenaid specifically with a DC motor.  While it runs on AC it has a dc converter for running the motor which maintains a steady 350 watts consumption straight through from start to finish, even under load.

AC motors are very clever but from a power perspective are very inefficient.

That wasn't what I started wanting to mention though.  For my system what I did was use DC to DC buck (or step down) converters for my DC power loads.  DC to DC step down converters may consume some power on standby but it is incredibly low, nothing like maintaining an AC inverter.

They're really cheap too.

Due to my system being 48v which can spike up to 62v when doing equalization charges on my t-105's I purchased this converter:

https://www.amazon.ca/Converter-DROK-Adjustable-Regulator-Transformer/dp/B08LPVWX74/

I actually configured that to run at a steady output of 48v, then you can use smaller gauge wire to run dc wire through the house to various loads and then use one of these at load sites:

https://www.amazon.ca/UCTRONICS-Numerical-Stabilized-Converter-Adjustable/dp/B01LWXAC5E/

Those are handy with a dial and output amp setting so you can get clean consistent DC power and step it down to targeted voltages at specific locations (usually 12v) but you could do things like swap out your dc adapters for TV's and laptops and just create your own DC pigtails and set your DC output voltage to match your power adapter and save alot of inefficiency in converting back and forth.

So just wanted to mention that, its a way to use the 48v setup and still power 12v loads.




3 years ago
Also, just for some references, this is a place I've purchased some items online and tends to be one of the better priced online solar hardware resellers.

https://www.altestore.com/store/inverters/hybrid-inverters/outback-power-fxrvfxr-series-inverter-chargers-p40835/#OUTVFXR3648A1

Thats the inverter that I purchased in canada for $3700 while its $1900 in the states.

As for Lithium batteries:

https://www.altestore.com/store/deep-cycle-batteries/lithium-batteries/simpliphi-power-smart-tech-lithium-batteries-p40602/#SIMPHI3_8-48V

I believe simpliphi gives a 10,000 cycle warranty (and 10 years) so thats a useable 3kwh of battery power at a c/2 charge rate for $2500, this would require 6kwh of lead acid to get the same useable power:

https://www.altestore.com/store/deep-cycle-batteries/flooded-lead-acid-batteries/crown-fla-parent-code-p40868/#CRWCR-235FLA

Those are $170, decent price, you'd need 8 in a string to do 48v so you're looking at $1360 but you'd have about 5.5kwh of useable power, so almost 2x of the simpliphi needed bringing you to a $5k cost for the lifepo4 vs $1360 for lead acid for similar usable battery power (about 4x the price for lithium).

But you get about 3-4x the lifespan and that 2 hr charge time from the lifepo4's.



3 years ago
Definitely check your kw requirements.

For fridge what we ended up doing was converting a full size standup 20cuft deep freeze using this:
https://www.amazon.com/Inkbird-Aquarium-Temperature-Controller-ITC-306T/dp/B07KC24CKD

This works so well because a standup deep freeze has about 3-4x the insulation of a fridge.  One of the biggest scams today with complaints about energy consumption and being eco friendly is refrigeration.  If there was actually committed concern about energy efficiency we would insulate fridge's the same as standup deep freezes and reduce electrical consumption of one of the most heavily power consuming and universal appliances in every single home by a factor of 8x.  The fact that you cannot purchase an actual fridge that is as efficient as converting a standup deep freeze is one of those indicators that corporations are only paying lip service to there being an energy crisis.

That turned our refrigeration power consumption down to around 380watts per day for fridge.

We switched to a passive propane wall furnace for heat and used dewalt shop fan to run super low speed to circulate air around the house which eliminated electricity power use for heat, sadly we had no wood fireplace option at that house.

We also swapped to propane on demand hot water heating and propane stove/oven, a special offgrid style one with pilot light and spark igniter that ran off a single d-cell battery so in one fell swoop we removed all electrical power requirements for heat, hot water and cooking.  Switched to LED lights for the house and that allowed us to run 2.8kwh per day (with 1.1kwh being the inverter's standby consumption).

Later when we went back with grid attached, I mentioned the transfer switch, which may be a good option for you, this is what was installed:
https://www.amazon.com/EGS107501G2KIT-10-7501G2-Detailed-Instructions-Flexible/dp/B005FQJD7K/

Each circuit can be individually flipped between different power sources and you connect your breakers in your main panel to the transfer switch lines individually so each switch controls a corresponding house breaker.  The transfer switch has breakers on each line, a few 20a and mostly 15a breakers.

As for batteries an expense, Canada being typically more expensive I got unbranded trojan t-105's for $200ea, they're 6v and 220amp hours, so for $3200 I got a 21kwh battery bank (useable around 10kwh).

This actually isn't the highest expense of a system although its a hefty one.  The canadian price for a 3500watt true sine outback inverter was $3700 which was actually my single highest expense.

That said I do highly recommend lifepo4.  Having used lead acid with the limited lifespan and charge limitations, you will get much more mileage and lifespan out of lifepo4 as well as allowing you to run successfully on 2hrs per day of sunshine rather than the 5 required to maintain lead acid.  Ultimately the cost per available useable kwh is about 2x the price as you can discharge much deeper with less damage on lithium.  The biggest selling point though is that you can charge in 2 hrs on a linear charge curve without the lead acid impedance as you approach full.  This is invaluable as you cannot dictate more sunshine and no amount of solar panels creates a longer period of solar activity if it just isn't there.  Being able to fully recharge your system in 2hrs of sun just can't be beat.

That said, if I were doing everything over again and didn't have access to micro hydro I would probably do a biogas system which uses a fraction of the footprint, provides gas for heating and cooking and water and fuel for generator and potentially vehicle as well and is just capturing existing methane production from biomass breakdown.
3 years ago
It can be a good practice to build characters even if they don't end up being used.  Practice building backstories, watch some fun videos on how to avoid really badly twinky'd back stories that dont' really fit the context of a starting character.  That youtube you posted has some funny examples on that on their channel.

if you're into reading, there's lots of books based on various d&d worlds, dragonlance, forgotten realms and so forth.  The dark elf series of novels by R.A. Salvatore can be a good place to start to get a feel for the sort of theme and method of the game.  Watching critical role can be good for that too as you can get a feeling for a good example of the game being played and the sort of fun and things you can expect.  That said, critical role is almost an idealized version of perfect fun role playing and not necessarily what you're going to get playing with others.  You find the fun really by getting into the 'role' playing part, not necessarily acting out your character (unless acting is your thing) but oftentimes THINKING through your character, really immersing yourself in their thought process as you would in reading a novel.  This immersion in how your character would think and react can really be the gateway into enjoying the game and story.

This can often lead to fun and humorous story telling that hopefully the other players will enjoy.  Don't apologize for being your character in how you act in game but try to be consistent with that actual character.  It lends a feeling of consistency like a well told story vs a tom green skit.

Reading source material or looking wiki's based on the d&d worlds can give you a better understanding of the sort of stories and sort of tales you can expect in your games.  Not that you might not play in an entirely custom setting like critical role does, but you can get a feel for the sort of storytelling that is consistent in d&d.

Many sourcebooks can help with ideas like character backgrounds, if you're keeping budgeted for sourcebooks though, doing some searching for things like d&d character background roll chart and you might find some ideas that can prompt you to flesh out your characters stories.  The act of building a history and a story for your character can help greatly in getting you into the right mindset to join a group.  Knowledge of the rules is less important than that sort of role play consistency of vision.  Many a game has been made fun by new players with a knack for understanding their characters mindset and a willingness to just be consistent to that vision.
3 years ago
Mike,

There's some possibility you will need to temper your expectations about solar generation.

As a background I setup and ran offgrid on my own house for 2 years, built my solar setup of 9 panels 300 watt, 3500watt outback inverter, 60 amp tristar mppt charge controller, built solar racks and my entire wiring setup.

First you need to figure out what sort of solar you're going to get, this can vary wildly, you need to figure winter vs summer coverage where you're planning your panels.  Having full sun exposure is VERY different from having partial.  A full straight on blast of sunlight on your panels can produce even higher than their rated wattage, 2800 watts for me, but even a branch of shade on a single string on that panel will drop you to 1200watts.  Only direct 90 degree sunlight will give you maximum solar, even full sunlight early in the morning at an angle may only produce 900-1000 watts on those same panels.  

While one person mentioned getting 600 watts on a rainy day, here in the pacific northwest on really dark and rainy days my array would generate about 180watt hours for the entire day.

The amount of sun and clear sun will literally change your solar production in a range of 1/20th your rated solar panels per day up to my personal maximum was 14kwh in a day (just over 5 solar hours).  To get more solar hours is tough as it requires tracking panels that will follow the sun straight on.   I live in the fraser valley of british columbia so that is about 1hr from vancouver, about 30 minutes north of the US border (in regards to latitude) and live on a south facing mountain.

My own solar was impeded by trees across the road and neighbor trees which would have made a modest difference, perhaps an additional solar hour per day maximum.  In the winter I would get shade on the panels in the middle of the day in the depths of winter.  Often a non-issue though in that the gloom and rain here would cause us to have months of an accumulated total of about 10 solar hours for the entire month (28kwh for an entire month total).

In addition to the potential issues with solars variance, which can be extreme ranging from 0.05-6x your rated panels depending on weather, you will also run into inverter drain.  Inverters, mine being an outback 3.5kw, drain around 40-45watts per hour so they accounted for about 1kwh/day drain just from the inverter being active, to have available AC power requires a standby power drain that is in addition to your actual appliance consumption.  All inverters will give you a similar issue and the drain is based on the maximum potential KW power of the inverter itself.

You will also want to really monitor your KWH consumption of power before you look to size your system.  While you've tested your deep freeze, deep freezes aren't the biggest drain in the house in our experience.  You've mentioned wanting to power a refrigerator.  That was our biggest unavoidable consumption.  We had purchased a brand new samsung 20cuft refrigerator about 6 months prior to going offgrid and the kwh consumption per day was 2.5kwh per day just for the fridge.  I would highly suggest using the kilowatt on your fridge for a few days and calculating your power consumption.

Another big issue for us was furnace consumption.  The forced air blower on our furnace (and the glowplug for startup) would consume 650 watts.  When calculating our furnace use, our furnace would run for 3.5-4hrs per day in the winter time.  That was another possible 2.8kwh per day of consumption.

I definitely advise, before spending money or sizing a system, run your kilowatt on your chosen appliances, if you can, get one on your furnace as well if thats whats intended.

What I ended up doing, once we went back onto grid power, was to get a manual multi-circuit transfer switch, this allowed me to toggle individual house circuits between grid and solar at will, each circuit is a 3 way toggle, grid-off-solar and you can actually switch them fast enough to flip electronics between power sources uninterrupted.  This allowed me to toggle the entire house over to solar (as I had that few of circuits) at will when there were power outages, and I routinely ran about 1/2 the house on the system, when there was poor solar for awhile and the batteries got lower in charge, I would just switch those circuits back to grid power and shut down the inverter until the solar charged up the batteries again.

If you do get batteries (which I did).  Lead acid are cheaper by far of various options but have a very poor charging profile that limits the potential of solar dramatically.  Lead acid batteries will have very poor life the lower you discharge the batteries, so much so that by the time you get down to 50% charge most inverters will be automatically powering off to prevent battery damage.  Lead acid take a long time to charge too as once they reach 85% charge their charge rate dramatically slows as impedance builds in the batteries.  Float charging can generally take longer than you will ever get a sustained burst of solar activity so often your batteries will not get fully charged unless you have consecutive sustained days of good sun and low consumption.  Also the round trip efficiency can end up requiring alot more power than you get back out of the batteries, ie: you use 5kwh of power, it often will require 6-6.5kwh or more to recharge that battery bank.

Lithium batteries (lifepo4 being a good choice) typically run about 4x the price per kwh but can FULLY charge in 2 hrs if you have the solar panels for it, compare that to lead acids 5-6hrs and you can start to see the benefits.  Lifepo4 batteries will often be rated for 2000-10,000 cycles too as opposed to lead acids often being 500-800.  These cycle lengths are how many times they can be reliably charged, lower discharges over their life can extend these lifetimes quite a bit as well (in both cases).  You also get a stronger charge efficiency, 5kwh of consumption may only require 5.5kwh to replace and can be replaced faster with a larger array (up to 2hr charge time from an 80% discharge).

As for wiring the panels.  Typically you will only wire 3 panels at a time in series.  The majority of charge controllers are rated for a max voltage of around 120 volts.  You CAN find higher but you need to make sure you check what you're doing.  Those are rated maximums and you are typically trying to make sure you have a safety margin underneath that, many panels are around 10 amp 30 volt but can go higher based on weather and solar (voltage wise).  Higher voltage transfers easier, as you add amps you cause impedance, getting higher voltage rather than amps lets you use lower gauge wire.

Use the wire calculators that were mentioned for figuring it out.  3 panels in series will still be 10 amps but 90 volts.  One thing I did was get 8 gauge wire and ran separate lines for each of my panel strings, around 100ft, this caused minimal loss, if I had put my strings together in parallel at the panels I would have needed at least 2 gauge or 0 gauge wire to get the same efficiency as I would have been pushing 30 amps.  The 8 gauge wire, even the 6x 100' lengths was VASTLY cheaper than 2x 100 2 gauge wire would have been.  I brought the strings into parallel where my battery bank and charge controller were.

If you go lithium batteries they have different temperature tolerances than lead acid, do your research on temperatures first based on your battery tech and it might affect where you put your batteries and charge controller.  The sooner you can get to AC power the easier it is to transfer that power with lower loss hence lower gauge wire.  For temperatures lead acid prefers around 25 celcius which is around 77 Fahrenheit for optimal use.  The lithiums are more tolerant of ranges but have serious issues below 30 Fahrenheit.

Overall solar is a good experience but you do need to temper your expectations of power.  I often said, if it only rained for 5 out of 7 days here and we only had 2 full days of sun a week that we could do solar GREAT, but the reality was that we would sometimes get WEEKS of poor weather, or entire months without seeing the sun.  Those weeks of interminable rain can result in your solar array producing much less than your inverter drains every day leading to constant net loss of power before you've even turned on a lightbulb.

The major benefit though is the availability of power, once you have that battery bank and charge controller and generator (the inverter actually is what charges the battery bank from a generator because you're bringing in AC power for that), then you have ALOT of freedom.

We managed to optimize our house to be able to sustainably survive on 2.8kwh/day with freezers, lights and refrigeration and heat.  Our 20kwh lead acid battery bank (which only lets you use about 10kwh) would last us for around 4 days without any solar.  5 Hours of charge with our propane fueled generator would bring us back up to around 95% battery and enough to last another 4 days.  If we managed this well it would run about $25-$30 in propane fuel to run entirely on generator and battery banks.  This opposed to the $30/day it would cost to run entirely on generator.  This is because your generator will consume about 40% of its maximum fuel use under load, just idling.  So if you fire up a generator, make maximum use of it otherwise you're wasting fuel.

I have plenty of other tips as well, things like sizing your system based on your batteries and necessary consumption and other tips if you're interested.

One note as well.  Go with a 48v setup.  Most charge controllers are AMP based, ie: 40 amp, 60 amp etc.  They're still an expensive piece of hardware for an mppt charge controller.  If you decide to use a 12v setup your 60 amp charge controller will only output a max of 720 watts.  It is limited to 60 amps, whether thats a 48v setup (2880 watts) or a 12v setup (720 watts).

I made that mistake early on and had to address it.  The main issue isn't the charge controller in that scenario, its the inverter.  Inverters are hard set to a specific input voltage range so a 12v inverter can't run off a 24v system or a 48v system.  A 48v inverter won't run off a 12v system.  Your good pure sine inverter is going to be the next most expensive piece of hardware after your battery bank so this is important early in the design decision.

The voltage has nothing to do with your solar array setup and just has to do with how you setup your battery array.  Stick with 48v though, can use lighter gauge wire for your battery bank and various wiring there than if you use 12v, you're also using lower amps which is generally better for heat and losses etc.

If you're sizing your array, realize that there's a maximum charging speed for any battery array.  If you are running lead acid, their maximum charge speed is around c/8 (for trojan t-105, each battery you look at should have charge specs in their spec sheets) which is 1/8th their capacity.  Lead acid slow as they get close to full but this gets you in the proper ballpark.  That means having a 5kw solar array when you have a 20kw battery bank is useless.  Your battery bank can only charge at a maximum of 2600 watts, the 5kw solar array is way under used.  (You also would need a much bigger charge controller to make use of it, but with a 20kw battery bank you couldn't charge that fast anyways).

The amount of battery storage will absolutely dictate how big a solar array you should look at.  While there is some argument for over-paneling your setup in that you produce more in offtimes, there's issues with overloading your charge controller, not being able to use that power, having to deal with dump power or other issues to get rid of excess solar electricity and possibly blowing fuses and spending alot of money in infrastructure and racking and cabling for something you fundamentally have no way to properly utilize.

If you look at a lithium battery array you can definitely look at a larger solar setup for similar capacity.  A 10kw lithium array can use between 8kw-10kw (documentation is sketchy so I'm uncertain if you can actually consume the 100% capacity they claim).  Regardless you can charge at c/2 for most lifepo4 setups which would mean 5kw per hour.  This means you would have potentially similar capacity as a 20kw lead acid but you could use a solar array 2x the size and charge the entire thing in 2hrs of sun (although you would need a bigger or multiple charge controllers).

Charge controllers can be paralleled into battery banks without issues as well.  Expanding your system is pretty easy, the thing to avoid though is mixing old and new lead acid battery banks as they have to all be ran in parallel to each other (in 48v strings) and capacity differences in different battery ages will cause total capacity disparities and can lead to the banks slowly draining or unequally charging causing discharge drains.  Adding more panels can be done in strings, you need to keep your inputting voltages similar.  I have 4x 265watt panels and 5x 300 watt panels.  Basically your voltages will align with your lowest string voltages which means if you add higher voltage panels later on, you'll end up just basically running them as though they're the lower voltage of the originals.

The inverters you go with often will allow twinning or stacking, check the literature on your brand, I know siemens inverters that someone mentioned can be paralleled or stacked into I think 3 or 4 together to increase capacity and phase your power to 240v which is good for welding and other high voltage draws.

Increasing your system size though pretty much all rotates around your batteries though, having a massive array is useless if you can't charge your batteries that fast anyways.  Its a different scenario if you're grid tied of course, you basically trade the independence and reliability of your own power and the cost of the battery system, to the utility to essentially replace a battery system with the utility (and make some possible money at the same time).  The exchange (here in BC anyways) is that our utility company has legal authority to come in and do as they please with your system and its an absolute requirement that your system go offline when the utility power is down (so you're not dangerously backfeeding into the lines when linemen may be working on the lines).  This means that your power is out along with everyone elses when it goes down.

Lots to think about I hope there's been some helpful info in here.

A helpful utility for android cell phones:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.andymstone.sunposition

That is a solar tracker app that lets you set a calendar day and uses your phone and location and the camera to show you the trajectory of the sun on a specific calendar day.  This can be used to figure out your solar coverage in specific areas to determine what sort of solar exposure you will get which can vary alot based on time of year.







3 years ago
There's a lot to say about D&D and roleplaying and fantasy in general.

As background I started playing D&D when I was 11-12 back in late 80's and played it consistently until everyone got married and got 'lives'.  

I bided my time until I had kids and now that my oldest daughter is 10 I've started introducing it (we have talked about it for years but they're starting to get the necessary focus to play now).

Education:

Role playing games can be immensely useful for education.  We teach our own kids and I believe in learning not education.  I define education as something that is done to you while learning is something you do yourself.  Role playing games can be very useful to promote reading and writing practice, learn mental math skills, use imagination and hone your ability to focus and visualize.  Alot of this can be lead by someone in the group or the DM by focusing on prompting and by doing these things yourself.  Even as a player you can prompt for increasing visual descriptions and enhance the overall imagination and concept of a scene like a good writer writing a well done description of a scene in a book.

This process is made easier than a solo writer in that you can bounce ideas around from other players and the DM, so instead of having to tell a story yourself as a creative writer, you can collaboratively create scenes and ideas.

In addition Role Playing games can be used to prompt increased interest in other things that can be directed to learning, things like politics, social issues, science, engineering.  If you are creative as a DM you can use history and its lessons or science or knowledge to prompt an interest in others to learn more themselves.  Things like swiping plots from books or useful articles you read or plots from movies can be used.  

One of the best uses for fiction (including role playing) is to create a safe medium to explore philosophies and issues, social or otherwise, the ramifications of new and potentially dangerous technologies, how people react to terror and fear, how prosperity can affect a social landscape.  As an avid reader over the years I've learned an immense amount and been directed to learn about things from many fiction authors I've read.  Reading Robert Heinlein works has been like reading prophecy about issues occurring in the modern day, even from things he wrote in 1939 having a direct reflection on current social issues.  Role playing games allow you to share these insights and explore them.  Many people won't sit around for a dry documentary on history yet will sit in rapt attention at a movie about conditions in WW2.  The stories don't have to be exactly non-fictional.  Watching a few episodes of 'Lovecraft Country' this last year was very interesting just to learn about how recent some of the Jim Crow social issues were active in places in the USA.  Its a totally fluff fictional story but you can learn some things or be prompted to learn them from such fluff.

Offgrid:  

I've been accumulating resources for a few years, we are likely moving offgrid soon, I've been offgrid previously for a few years, the one main casualty of easy unlimited power is electronic entertainment.  For this reason roleplaying games are the gift that keeps on giving, they can keep you entertained and have something to do on those long winter months when its not practical to spend all your time out of doors.  Even if the grid disappears some day or we change our ways of life entirely, books and the written word will survive.  In researching the rise and fall of civilizations the conclusion that is most often reached about the degree of continuity and progress we make as a race is often attributed to the written word and its preservation over time.  Not just empirical facts and science but also the story of people and civilization and society.  If we wind up in a future where things are collapsing these kinds of games allow us to continue a story of times much different than our own, to give us a greater perspective than our local.

Social Skills:

Role playing games also promote social interaction, important even for introverts as long as its a safe space.  While I enjoy electronics (I've worked in the computer field for about 20 years and started in computers at 10 years old) it doesn't do much to promote healthy social skills and confidence.  Role playing games can help you learn that most important of human social skills, the ability to create a persona to interact confidently with others.  In creating persona's you can also learn about what fits you.  Its similar to trying on boots, you will never learn what fits until you try some on and walk awhile to break them in.  Learning about who you are and how to be comfortable can be very useful in learning to interact in society with others.

Conclusion:

I believe role playing games are one of our greatest creations.  I feel certain one of mans greatest gifts is his ability to imagine.  To dream of a world that can be, to imagine things different than his current reality and explore the possibilities that exist there, it allows us to prepare in advance for situations that we would be otherwise unprepared to handle.  We create a projection in our minds of our situation and interact with what we perceive to be reality which is in fact just our imagining of such.  Role playing games allow us to practice actively controlling our projection rather than being subject to the projection of others.  To 'think for ourselves' and to 'control our narrative' our fantasy may be more or less accurate than others but the purpose of our imagining is less about some objective absolute truth and more about what allows us to progress to a future that we see.  We invent a hope of possibilities that we want to make real and work towards them.  Role playing games stretch the muscles in a fun and enjoyable way, enriching and sharing our imagination with others in a safe way, teaching us to use our imagination and mind and exploring ourselves at the same time.

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addendum,

For people interested in learning how to play and DM, this guy has a good youtube series, its long and winding but he really covers learning to DM in a pretty easy and practical way.  

https://www.youtube.com/user/mcolville
3 years ago