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Denise Cares wrote:Hi John, Wondering how your tree growing is coming along? Give us an update. In the area I live there is good rainfall in winter but long long hot dry summers. No rain and moisture literally sucks out of the soil and air so mulching is important and deep watering in summer. Has anyone mentioned Carob tree? It is drought tolerant and makes food for animals and man. I'm thinking to try growing it. It grew well in southern calif where I used to live, also hot and dry summers and lots of wind in spring/fall.
Amy Gardener wrote:Greetings from 5,000’ elevation and 11” water in New Mexico.
Here are some questions for you, John, that will help with shade tree recommendations:
Do you have AZ cypress and or pinion growing on your property or near you?
The trees you mention in, “what I have growing so far,” are they succeeding in pots or have you planted them on your land already? What trees are already thriving on your land?
Are you looking for other shade tree suggestions or just want to know about the plants that you listed?
How far from your house would you like to plant your deciduous trees? (This will influence root system choice).
What supplemental water, if any, is available to the trees (roof water, street water, ground water, flood irrigation, drainage water, natural wash, flood irrigation)?
Do you have soil or the potential to enrich the naturally arid ground with regular composting or green manure crop?
Would you like to grow under-story plants beneath your deciduous shade tree?
Is this tree going to be in a protected place or highly exposed to wind?
Please let us know more about your specific site.
Leslie Moody wrote:We're at 6200' in New Mexico, very cold short winters, Siberian Elm and Russian Olive rule the roost here. All the old cottonwoods in our area have died, locusts seem to do OK but never get big enough to produce shade unless you have a groundwater source. The elms were here when we bought our place, and a local arborist advised us to get their saplings annually or they will invade, but so far (after 10 years) we've only had a few years where new sprouts posed a challenge. They are fast growing, great shade and habitat, just don't plant them where you want to grow anything else cuz they take all the water.
Gray Henon wrote:All the campgrounds I have stayed at in your neck of the woods are shaded with cottonwoods. Not sure if there was an original watersource in the area that made their growth possible, ie high water table. The big issue with cottonwoods is that they are brittle and will drop huge branches in high winds.
S Bengi wrote:Grows seeds, don't buy $2 seedling and then transplant them.
There are trees that grow in the desert/middle-east, like dates(but you are too cold), apricots, almonds, filbert/hazelnut, mulberry, figs(Chicargo hardy cultivar), pistachios(i think from a university in utah, that one green world now sells), jujube. There are other trees that grow in sand dunes like beach plums, sand cherry, seaberry (and autumn olive too). There is also
gooseberry/jostaberry/currants and walnut too. I would give a few of the caneberries a try (wineberry/blackberry/raspberry/etc)