Hi George, sorry about what happened to you that day, but I appreciate that you honestly share your experience and still have a positive take on it. I was doing research about the Sepp Holzer methods and stumbled on this post. I have a permaculture project in South of France in the Pyrenees at 1000m high, including planting a fruit forest, creating a pond, a permaculture garden. I would really love to learn at Krameterhof, and think that experience could help me a lot. So if your voucher is still available and you are ok share it I am definitely interested.