Ren Lid

Thank you all for your kind replies!

@Emily, I am actually not vegan. I do not mind eating eggs (for example) when they imply NO butchery or mistreatment of any sort. There are some brands who sell such eggs (at least in France, where I used to live, I don't know about other countries ; the brands were "poule house" and "poule d'or", to name a few). I also do not mind a win-win cohabitation with animals, as long as they are treated (very) well. But, I confess, even though I am not vegan, 99% of my food is still plant-based.

Thank you for the enlightenment about buddhists, it is much appreciated! I indeed saw Korean movies (yeah because I love them so much!!) where buddhists were vegan. But I never lived as a buddhist myself, so I was not sure if that was true.

From what you say, Fukuoka seemed to be flexitarian: he seemed to accept to eat meat, but did not organize everything around it... Did I understand well?

@Tereza thank you, that is precisely the other thread I was talking about in my first post. It was not clearly stated there whether Fukuoka was vegetarian / vegan / flexitarian / other. There were other information, interesting information, but not this specific one. From what I did read, and this concurs with what Emily said, Fukuoka seemed to be flexitarian, and eat meat/fish only when it happened "on its own" (or something). The fact that "more than half the students were vegetarians" unfortunately does not imply that Fukuoka ever was...

@Flora thank you for this concise but efficient summary. Indeed everyone seems to think he was flexitarian, even though his students were mostly vegetarians and his philosophy was imbued with buddhism (which means no meat if I'm not mistaken -- except in the scenario that you described). Thank you also for telling me the diet of Mollison and Holmgren.

If some of you are wondering why I am asking about their diet, it's because an anti-vegan youtuber in my country stated (vigorously) that permaculture could never be vegan, and even though I am not vegan myself (as stated earlier) I began researching it because the guy was too belligerent and dishonest (I will probably look more deeply into it though, because now I have a garden, and I would love to grow my own food! and the permaculture principles -- with a vegan touch -- seem very nice )

I found examples of successful vegan permaculture farms, and I wanted to look into the roots of permaculture as well

Thank you again for your kind replies!

Best,

Thank you Flora

However, I don't own his book (yet).

Would you mind enlightening me about his diet? Whether he ate animals or eggs or insects or something?

Thank you kindly

Best,

Hi there,

I am researching the topic, but found nothing really tangible. I found out that Masanobu Fukuoka applied his "origins" (e.g. Buddhism) to his life work.
And I may be mistaken, but to me Buddhists are vegans.
But nothing really clear like "Masanobu Fukuoka did not eat animals" or "Masanobu Fukuoka did not eat animals nor dairy products"
I did read, though, in another topic, that the students were mainly vegetarians, and that cows were forbidden to be killed and that dairy products were not really available (or even "a thing") back then.

So, what is it then? Is there a reliable information on the topic, about Masanobu Fukuoka's diet (and/or Bill Mollison and David Holmgren)?
I am looking for a solid proof (or testimony) that Masanobu Fukuoka was vegetarian (maybe he was eating eggs?) or vegan (or even if he was not, actually)

Thank you kindly

Best,