Roland Hamilton

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Amy / Anne,

These are strategies I never even considered. Thanks so much! Still doesn't negate the need for other catchment surfaces in our case, but with some planning should hopefully shrink that demand.

John, I won't get overwhelmed analyzing. I prefer to do as much research & planning up front as possible. Sometimes it's excessive, but it saves me big-time in the regrets department.
3 years ago

R Scott wrote:Every time I’ve run the numbers for lowest life time cost (20-30 years minimum) the winner has been a basic agricultural pole barn. Greenhouses or shade structures are cheaper up front but replacing the plastic adds up over time.

It really depends on what else you need that you can “share the cost” with. If you plan to grow a lot of stuff that needs shade, the shade structure probably makes the most sense. If you need a shop or barn or secure storage, the barn probably wins.

I do know someone that built a HUGE pole barn roof with no sides and then parked an rv in it while they built a straw bale house under another corner. It didn’t stop the wind but provided the only shade on the property plus a place to store stuff and work during the rainy season.



This proves very useful! Thank you and again, everyone else that's posted!

But yeah, that is/was our delimma... what 'useful permanent surface' could be built for the least amount of $$ that would do the job as a catchment surface.

We do want / need structures such as a detached garage, and yes probably a greenhouse too. But we don't necessarily want/need/can afford any of the structures - even combined - to be nearly as big as they'd need to be to satisfy the whole of our collection requirements. I was looking at steel buildings yesterday that were WAY TOO BIG for anything we'd ever need to place inside them, just because I needed the roof space. That just didn't seem like the smartest way to go about things lol.

I really dig the example you cite. That might just be a very workable solution for us, though I think we might want 2 identical structures rather than 1 huge one.
Did the straw bale home ultimately comprise only one corner, or did they 'frame out' the entire space?
3 years ago
Thanks so much for all the replies, and the warm welcome! I so much appreciate it!

To be clear, I think I've got the math side of things pretty well sorted out. Granted, once put into actual practice I may find out I'm wrong, but I'm designing things so I can add capacity / catchment area incrementally if needed.

Also, I don't need this to be functional now... there's no rush. I'm planning ahead for building permanent structures, not something make-shift to get me by. Right now I'm mostly trying to determine if it's feasible for us to make a rainwater-only homestead work within our anticipated budget.

Going to start going through the links & videos posted. Thanks a bunch!

3 years ago
Greetings! This is my first post here. Thanks so much for the opportunity to be involved in this community!

We're planning a rainwater harvesting system to be used as our sole water supply (at least initially) here in AZ.

According to my rough calculations, that means a minimum of 5500 sq ft of catchment surface. That's to start. Ultimately I'd like to be more in the neighborhood of double that.

Since we're going to be living 'small' (I can't go so far as tiny), our combined home / garage footprint won't come anywhere close to that.

What I'm trying to figure out is what type of structures, and what materials, would lend themselves to large permanent catchment surfaces for the least $$ / sq ft. ?

Obviously, it would be optimal if they served some other purpose. Like a generic shade structure, gazebo, greenhouse, plant shade structure, solar panel mounts (we'll have some, but not that many lol!), etc.

Snow loads would be present, but light (maybe 2-3" at any one time tops).  Wind could be a problem during storms / microbursts. During the monsoon season we get a lot of rain, all at once, so that would be something to consider as well.

If anyone has any ideas, I'm all ears. Thanks in advance for your insight & assistance!

- Roland
3 years ago