Aster Stockholm

There's a podcast on YouTube by Wes Gerber called Sasquatch Chronicles. Wonder if any of you have seen the creatures or the neanderthals. Listen to his show- he's an amazing host. No, I've never seen a sasquatch etc.

Peace out.

jimmy gallop wrote:

Mrs. EdJacobs wrote:1.  Hand washing preferred.  If a dishwasher is available I will use it as the drying rack.  Also, unless I need something immediately, or need more space, everything air dries.  Why get a towel all wet and take time to do it if it happens all by itself?

2.  I DESPISE SPONGES!!!  They just get nasty too quickly and can never truly be cleaned.  Yes, they can be "sanitized" in a microwave, but I don't use one of those either.  So I use wash cloths.  Generally I use a new one for each meal's washing, but at least a new one each day.  (I actually hate mops, too, of any kind.  If my floor needs cleaning I'll get down on hands and knees with rags and a bucket of water - OR use the last of the dish water if it isn't really gross.


I mop with a clean terri cloth towel I have just for that, just wet it like you want and put foot on each side go to it . A lot easier on my back




3.  I use only Dawn dish soap.  I've never found anything else (except Costco Kirkland brand) that works as well.  Cheaper stuff?  You use 3x as much, so not really cheaper.  More expensive stuff?  You use 3x as much, so definitely not cheaper.  More eco-friendly stuff?  Doesn't work well so you use 3x as much again.  Dawn is used to help de-grease birds and other creatures after an oil spill, so...

Something to think about when using a dishwasher:  Dishwashers are supposed to clean your dishes without any pre-washing!  Obviously you scrape off big chunks and bones, but sauces and small bits of food?  Leave them be.  The dishwasher detergent is designed to act on the food stuffs.  If you've rinsed everything off, then it goes to work on the dishes themselves, which is a leading cause of etched/cloudy glassware.

Sounds like me. Thing is just drape your mop outside in direct sun. It's fresh after few days. I hate it, too.

paul wheaton wrote:This is a space where I have personally witnessed a lot of crazy first hand.  And heard about plenty more second hand. 

And, this is an excellent example of of how some of the greenest people succomb to the greenwashing of madison avenue:  "using a dishwasher saves water over washing dishes by hand"

I am about to spell out how this is a load of horse potatoes.   

First, I have another nit to pick:  In the last couple of years, I have seen greenies get their knickers in a twist over water usage.  The panic seems to be about in the manufacture of something, 200 gallons of water is used.  Okay, that calculates out to a certain amount of power that was pumped up out of the ground ....  but the greenies are treating it as if that 200 gallons of water went into the product which will eventually end up in the dump - and at this rate we're gonna run out of water.   If this is anything other than a red herring, I think we need to start a new thread and talk about it. But, I'm quite certain that the water is used and then returned to the water cycle so it is still on the planet and available for reuse. 

There are REAL environmental issues to be concerned about, and too many greenies are wasting their concern over red herrings.

The doing-it-by-hand technique that beats the most eco dish washer under any circumstances is pretty simple:  use a dishpan;  run just a tiny amount of water (quarter cup?) to wash the first thing.  Then use a tiny amount of water to rinse that one thing, with the rinse water running into the dishpan.  As you are on to the fifth thing, you have a bit more soapy water in the bottom of the pan.  So you can start washing bigger things.  By the time you are done washing and rinsing everything, there should be about two quarts of water used.

Eco dishwashers set to eco mode use about 9 gallons of water and usually don't get the dishes clean unless you clean them first. 

Granted, it is possible for a person to wash dishes by hand where they leave the water running and waste lots and lots of water.  I am certainly not advocating that.

I can wash two sinks of filthy dishes with a gallon of water. And have three fourths gallon left over for washing clothes. I think it'll seem like I believe in dirty dishes. And I don't. It's so easy. You use some of the few inches of hot soap n baking soda water if possible to cup out n pre scrub. Use old clothing rinse water if you want. So it doesn't technically count as fresh. Get all the grease off. Scouring. Then wash. Use it all. Then you can start rinsing w old clothes rinse water or go right to the reserved gallon. Always rinsing a small item above the bigger ones. It's super easy. I figured in an extreme water shortage like camping, just get a spray bottle n use it to apply water pressure to forks etc. Water pressure is the issue w rinsing dishes.

I wouldn't expect anyone to eat off my dishes. Unless I used a freshly bleached or boiled sponge. And rewashed it in front of them with anything they preferred. But I don't like entertaining.

A good misting or rinsing in a home made apple scrap vinegar solution is nice, too. No, I don't normally wash my dishes in such a conservative way. Also you know vinegar helps cut soap n grease residue. So. Good plan.

An even better idea is to fill you water spray bottle w a tablespoon of vinegar. And if you're unable to have enough to rinse, just spray the dishes all over in the solution. Not only will the natural probiotics disinfect but it'll cut that detergent residue. I figure good for camping. Etc. or a fun experiment.

Obvious but if someone wants to reserve water they have to begin w the cleanest. Like a cup. Over a baking pan for example. It's crazy. If you think about it you could scrub out an entire baking pan w a tablespoon of water before rinsing. Trickle down effect. I'm not really sure about this whole permaculture thing but I call it permaculture dishes.

I swear I have it, now. Idk sometimes if I'm imagining it bc I didn't full on touch it but I know I touched it..I don't exactly wanna test it though.

Yes I've been exposed a lot to a super ivy both oak and sumac for months on end w no running water and I tossed and turned all night with the poison affecting me neurologically as well as physically. It was a literal hell. The skin scabbed and bled too and left scarring. When I moved to a slightly more temperate area I noticed I seem to be less sensitive to it but the locals had said in the other area that it was an especially toxic kind of ivy bc it was able to evolve there undisturbed. So maybe I'm just mentally less sensitive to this kind of "regular ivy" but haven't actually built any tolerance.

Angel Richardson wrote:I’m looking in building my cob house in Tennessee as well I want a two story home with a nine sided Centeral area but. Everyone around me keeps saying no to everything I want to do I just want my home 😞  

I know, sweetie. It's frustrating. I'm right there. N I know it'll get more obnoxious as I actually start to get into it and am told I can't do anything where I'm living. By ignorant people. And I totally anticipate it. So I'm considering moving where I can do it. You know northern TN has a workshop for cob. But I dislike that area. 🙄 I'm willing to hybridize my house to a degree that works for me and whoever is overseeing the build. But it depends. If something doesn't make sense to me I'd rather stay in a trailer until I can get what I want. Like a nicer airstream or something. But tbh those aren't safe. Even n a valley.