Hello!!... I.am new to.Permies just because I hadn't heard of it before. I have been following many diff youtube people with off grid ideas, and prepper ideas. I would love to have a copy of Kate Downham's black and white book!!! But of course it will be the luck of the draw!!... I think it is so wonderful that she is sharing her wisdom in these areas. I live in Hawai'i and am very blessed with the climate. But as in any place in the country living off grid is a smart way to live and learning to survive and thrive off grid is a smart way to live!! Mahalo for all you do on this site and in the sharing!! Aloha, mililani
