Maria Sal

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Hi Kate,

I would love to help out with this. I’ve been baking with sourdough for sixteen years now and while proficient, I wouldn’t call myself an expert baker. I only have access to a conventional American electric oven and a smaller convection oven that we use in the summer time. But, I have used lots of different grains and have hard red and white, spelt, and kamut/semolina on hand and have access to others - including heritage grains like einkorn. I mill my own.  I also have lots of lab experience, can follow a procedure and take good notes.

It’s summer break here and I have helpers, but I am not going to commit to a certain number right away. I would like to try a few and go from there. I can also help with proofreading of the text.
2 months ago

Ann Baker wrote:

Tangentially, as a separate project, our home has a traditional 4 bedroom septic system and we are a family of 6.  If we divert greywater from the shower, tub and washer will that cause a problem in our septic system?  If I understand correctly the septic system needs enough water to function properly so, I'm worried about diverting too much water away from it.

Thank you for reading and replying!



We are a family of 8 and our toilet was the only thing connected to the septic and it was fine because we’re home all day long and even though we limited how often we flushed, it was often enough to have enough water in the system.

That said, our greywater system was condemned. Even though we use less water than the average 4 person family, it was still too much water to be absorbed by our clay soil with high water table (except in seasons of drought our ground is always soggy)  and would spill into our neighbor’s land. We didn’t really have the resources at the time to plant enough to reroute the water and public health stepped in and told us we needed to fix it immediately.

What ended up being approved by the powers that be was rerouting our old septic and the greywater into a Fuji Wastewater Treatment System and draining into an already swampy low lying area on our property.
2 months ago
I like the newest version better. I especially like that there is some consistency with Off Grid Kitchen. I do think that the shading is helpful, but with the lower box already shaded, shading the ingredient columns would make it too cluttered.
2 months ago
Hi Kate,

I love this information and would find it helpful but it is too cluttered! And while our household has eight people and always scale recipes, a chart like that often causes me to mess up because I don’t have a good way of focusing in on the column I need (I will use the x2 ingredient from one column and x3 from another column because I am easily distracted unless I cover up the extra info with stickies which ends up bugging me…). And this is from someone who is always making up my own charts for everything!

In my mind, there should be a separate appendix/section of the book that cross references all the recipes with the amounts for scaling (I would find what I use most often and then copy that information by hand into the recipes I use most and my children know to follow my handwritten annotations when cooking from a recipe). Even better if the exact page number is listed for each recipe and it’s scaled counterpart.

The chart on timing is also very helpful, but I am wondering if it is better incorporated into a beginning “how to” section. Then, the recipe can have a basic time schedule with a note to refer to the chart on pg. XYZ for information on adjusting fermentation and rise times for different temperatures.

I prefer ingredients listed in the conventional order by quantity, not order of use. Especially, please tell me how much flour the whole recipe will require because I grind once a day for the next 24 hrs and it’s easier to plan ahead when I know I will need 3 cups for muffins and 6 cups for bread and half a cup needs left over to feed my starter.

One final note, if you do end up using the chart, please use consistent terms: e.g. bulk or ferment.
3 months ago
I wrote out way too much. To summarize what has worked for our family of 8:

1) Have an emergency meal plan that I can make no matter what.
2) Yes on color coded dishes
3) For booklists I love Ambleside Online
4) Relationships trump my goals. I let go of a lot to respect the person in front of me and pick my battles on the rest.
5) Yes on checklists but we prefer a routine to our day anchored around natural “pegs” than a formal schedule.
3 months ago
Hi Kate,

I was reading and catching up on Permies and reactivated my account just because I discovered you are writing a new book and was seeking input!

I learned how to bake with sourdough when my oldest was a toddler over a decade ago from WAPF bloggers Wardee Harmon and Katie Kimball, Peter Reinhart’s books and the Fresh Loaf forums. I never did get into a good grove though till I read Shannon Stonger’s Traditional Foods for the Frugal Family (or was it her Off Grid Homestead?) and your own Off Grid Kitchen. What was hampering me was my own health issues, perfectionism, feeling like I needed precise measurements, and never having a good starter routine. From Shannon, I learned to have a rhythm to my baking day and from you I learned to retain only a small piece of starter (often times it’s only a tablespoon and I build it up for the next time I anticipate baking) and how to tell what the dough is supposed to feel like so that I didn’t have to worry about measuring. I also learned through experience to add a pinch or two of yeast to all my loaves so that no matter what the quality of the starter the dough will still rise even while there is a long and slow fermentation. Using your method of keeping just a bit of starter, I have successfully kept a starter going now for a couple of years! Never could keep a starter alive long term before.

If I make a levain and don’t get around to making bread, no problem, we eat it as pancakes. I rarely venture into other sourdough goods these days, though there was a period of time when my children were all younger, we lived in an apartment, and I made many sourdough based foods (pies, muffins, tortillas, etc). When we moved out to the country, got animals, and the children increased in number, grew and needed more academics, I honestly stopped being able to make as much from scratch and stuck to bread, pancakes and sourdough as the acid soaker for oats and whatever else.

That said, even now during busy periods or when I have health relapses, baking bread goes to the bottom of the priority list and I end up buying sprouted bread at the grocery and that’s a lot more expensive. Or I end up making biscuits and that’s more time consuming, ironically. I have tried the 5 minutes a day method with sourdough and sometimes I have just stuck a loaf in the fridge, but the end results are always dense bricks that even my super tolerant family does not enjoy eating and the “bread” goes to the chickens. Freezing already baked loaves usually ends up in them being wasted too. I am kind of experimenting with a completely no knead overnight loaf, but I have never really had success with a dough that didn’t have some stretches and pulls and a little bit of kneading. So, maybe I am chasing a pipe dream. We need bread to fill up hollow legs ha ha! My husband and I can get along without carbs just fine, but even things like potatoes don’t fill my children up like a whole meal loaf of bread does and they eat a loaf at a time!

I don’t understand why even with being on the grid with all the modern conveniences I have such a hard time keeping up with bread through every season. I would like to rectify the situation of letting go of bread baking during less ideal times and a book that shows me how to do it would be super helpful. I also never did find a truly great sourdough hamburger bun recipe. Plus, I would like to have a book that assembles the collective wisdom on this topic to be able to pass on to my children: books that will help them avoid having to “reinvent the wheel” are always valued and purchased in quantity for their hope chests - and so far your Off Grid Kitchen and Cheesemaking have  made it into that category.

Oh and one of my children may need to cut out gluten permanently. I know I can figure this out and I have Shannon’s works that are very helpful with this, but I will happily read anything you contribute to the subject. You both share a very practical for large families approach to getting stuff done!
3 months ago