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I've been thinking about this design a bit more and I think I've improved it. Would love to hear anyone's thoughts on this idea.


N->                  /
                    /
                   /
                  /
                 /
                / Roof
    Wall       /
      |       /
      |      /          
      |     /            
      |    /            
      |   /         ^ Vent    
======|  /==========|======== Grade
      |  |              |
      |  |    Cellar    |
      |**|              |
      |** Snow/Ice      |  
      |.................|
      |: Gravel        :|
   ___|:..................:


Key Components:
1. Cellar: Below-grade masonry structure, with small gaps at bottom of South wall
2. Gravel: Provides drainage at the bottom of the cellar
3. Vent: Allows hot air to escape from the cellar
4. Wall: Extends above grade on south side of cellar, shading the trench
5. Trench: ~1 foot wide gap between two walls on south side
6. Steel Roof: Shades cellar, sloped to accumulate snow into trench
7. Snow/Ice: Accumulates in the trench, exposed to cellar interior

Notes:
1. Thermosiphon effect means cold air will sink into trench in winter and chill cellar. Then in summer warm air will rise through vent and pull cold air from trench into cellar.
2. Roof serves dual purpose of shading cellar and collecting snow in winter that will compact into ice. Rain gutter positioned below edge to collect water, but allow snow to slide into trench.
3. Wall may not need to extend above grade if built on a North facing slope.
1 year ago
Where I grew up in Eastern Oregon, there were several ice caves. There were a few different arrangements, but one that I always remembered was one that was just out in a talus field. You could climb down under a few large pieces of talus and there would be ice there year around. I think what was happening was that snow would slide down the talus and accumulate in a place where no sunlight reached it. It would then compact into ice and sit there slowly melting and cooling the area all summer. It wasn't in a place of particularly high snow fall and it would get pretty hot there in the summer, which makes me wonder if someone could build an artificial set up like this an use it to cool a cellar year around.

Here is a sketch of an idea I had to build this. Basically have a sheet metal catchment area for snow. Have the snow slide down that catchment into a shaded underground area to accumulate into ice. Then set things up so the cool air and water from the ice go down into a cellar. Cellar is vented in the top so that hot air can escape and draw in more cool air from over the ice. Would need to size the catchment area and accumulation area to the climate with the goal of having year around ice.

Would love to know if people have experimented with this?
2 years ago