Evan Wilson

Hello everyone,
Update thus far, nothing showing up so far which is inside the window of my normal experience. Ok so here's my attack process.

1 the moss is by a company called "premier" purchased from Amazon.
2 I spread the moss in a maybe 4 ft long shallow container, sprayed (not alot) it with permethrin (trying not to offset the ability of the moss to do it's job so to speak and inhibit the composting function.
3 sprayed neem oil, also from Amazon (I think captain Jack is the brand) on the underside of the lid all around and the walls and seal of the base.
4 since the fan obviously can't get wet, I sprayed it with permethrin just enough to make sure nothing could surface from it later as a problem point.
5 I have sprayed the under lid and walls once since then as a just in case (issues on my part likely)

This may be the new routine. Mind you this is after the boiling water to set a clean slate. The problem here is I've done several changes at once so I can't target the absolute source nor can I say it's not 2 together as a resolve. I will say this, the premier brand claims no bugs, that's promising as non others have (moss nor coir). The neem is natural, the permethrin not so much so I feel better using the neem often and used the permethrin as an attempt to I guess sterilize the moss just in case.

I will return again to update. Finger crossed. For my sword is still on my back waiting, it will be a bit before I'm not suspect as like others, after awhile it gets to you. Ptsd I suppose lol.

Hello all,
I've been here on this page before and back again to see if anything effective for a process has surfaced. I am also dealing with the damn mites. These are resilient beyond words. It's not the housing,its definitely the medium (although they may be for some as said in crevices etc) but.... I know this as I have been adding steps to rule out 1 thing from another.

I have washed it completely, done the whole bleach and water pressure thing. Different mediums, coir and moss ( moss is how it originally occurred btw). I know it's the medium for 2 reasons, 1 this happens in other medium applications and regular soil. These are soil mites. Potting soil, composts outside and our toilets. 2 I have used boiling water over every inch of the toilet after washing let it air dry, refilled and they return. It's impossible for them to survive water at this temp.

As for diatomaceous earth this has also been used by me as well, the issue with it in the medium is it needs to be dry and them to be at crawling stage to work. If the medium becomes moist (which it does from us) it no longer can do what it's supposed to do.

At the moment (it's soaking to be cleaned) , I'm adding 2 things to the mix so to speak. I will be doing the boiling water to insure nothing remains on the frame after I clean it, I have permethrin and a product called premo mite killer. I haven't decided on the particulars of exactly where there both going but I know that I will be using them both and I have had delivered moss again (I haven't used this in 2 yrs and been using coir from different places trying to get a fix on this), this moss supposedly is advertised as bug free, I will see about this. Btw these little basterds feed on decomposition of matter(bark, food, our leave behind) and seem to hatch apon our use of the toilet.

If you guys want I'll repost and give an update, as you can tell I'm a tad tactical about this and determined to deal with it.and as for the earth (thought just crossed my mind,having it on the sides after the medium may help after cleaning as they need to crawl up the sides to get to the lid)..... If I seem obsessed, kinda at the moment.