giorgos Papadakis

Cade Johnson wrote:a while back, I was talking with someone who wanted to keep neighbors off his land, but he did not want to fence it and we came up with the idea of putting some bee boxes near the property line. He did not actually have any bees in the boxes, but it still seemed to work. A lot of people will not get close enough to a hive box to check if it is occupied. On the other hand, bee hives are probably a good addition to any olive grove.

I am fairly certain they will steal the boxes. This is rural Crete

Hey guys,

I would like to start working with a family olive grove.

Everyone here plows the land. When I talk about no dig, people look as if I said something crazy. Everyone is certain it won't work.
The land here is heavily eroded, with very low organic content.

I was also thinking of burying prunings (people here normally burn the branches after pruning).

We have very dry conditions for almost 10 months of the year. The trees are not irrigated.
Has anyone applied permaculture principles on an olive grove succesfully (in the Mediteranean region) ?

Hey guys,

I grew up in rural Crete, Greece
We have an olive grove there, and we always had problems with neighbours stealing various things from our land. Young Trees, fence etc...

We have fenced the area twice, one time somebody stole the fence, another time someone with a tractor trampled over the fence, and then people stole it haha!
I have been away for 10+ years and not giving much attention to the land, but now I consider going back. I live about 40 km away.

We also have a shepherd, who after many warnings, still will occasionally allow his ship in my land.

First of all I would like to fence the area, but fencing is really expensive, and I dont want to waste my money again.
I was thinking of doing plants. Plants that are easy to propagate.  Ideally hardy plants. Bonus points for things that the sheep wont like to eat.
What plants would you recommend ?

Also how can I prevent thieves, cameras perhaps ? The land is off grid, no electricity, internet.

Any advice is welcome. I dont want to sell the land.

Leaves do not always mean success. Be careful as cuttings will throw leaves first and then roots.