It appears that neither site is working. I got the following error messages:
This site can’t be reached
The webpage at
https://permaculturenews.org/ might be temporarily down or it may have moved permanently to a new web address.
ERR_INVALID_RESPONSE
AND
This site can’t be reached
Check if there is a typo in internationalpermaculture.com.
If spelling is correct, try running Windows Network Diagnostics.
DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN
