deberosa Hatfield

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TCLynx wrote:
I get the impression from the goat thread that the miniture and dwarf goats are not necessarily easier to fence just because they are small.  They are apparently more nimble and cunning.




Yeah, just read that thread after posting that.   Good thing we are still planning.  Pigs will be first here anyhow along with the gardens and orchards.
16 years ago
We paid $1000 for our Daisy and her sterile heifer at her side.  Open - not bred.  That was an absolute steal.  I don't know what my friend got for the heifer but they are expensive.  Another point on the goat side. 

Jami be aware that no matter how gentile they are they are still a large animal and can injure you very easily!  Never turn your back on them for sure even if they are friendly and in the case of a bull Especially if they are friendly, because they will not fear you.

As for goats - I was thinking Nigerian dwarfs - easier to fence, great milk,  Easier on Pasture.  Nothing this year though until fences go up and there is a ton of other projects that come before it!
16 years ago
Hi,

I am back as my original self.

I think there is a difference between regular breeds bred to be miniature and true small breeds.  Dexters are true small breeds - there is not a standard size Dexter.  They just seem to have less issues.  We have new neighbors with Highland Cattle, another true small breed.  We bought a quarter of meat from them and it is wonderful!  They aren't really milk cows though and have huge horns!  They are set up just for producing meat cattle so it works for them.

Goats will take smaller shelters, and issues with loading (we don't have chutes and trailers, etc.) would be easier.  There is something really pleasant about going out to feed a cow though, it was great having Daisy for the time we did.

As for pigs, we had regular pigs and if you don't butcher them in time they get to be huge!  Then you have to deal with that.  The sows we had to try to load to sell when we moved walked right through a cattle panel!  Fortunately we had Jake our farm dog to help us round them up.  It took hours to load them.  THat plus you almost have to feed them feed unless managed carefully (see Sugarmountain Farm Blog for that!).  Most feed now has GMO corn in it.

We were looking at Guinea hogs - pretty rare but a heritage breed that maxes out at 300 pounds, great mothers, and not mean when they have piglets.  They graze and eat garden scraps but very little grain - only some in the winter.  That is what we are thinking of long term.  Again this is a naturally small breed and not miniturized.

To me, for a personal homestead, dealing with large animals is just another challenge and if you can eliminate it why not? Large animals are too large to process for one family, so you have to find someone to buy the rest and then you get into a ton of regulations that complicate that process. Large animals take stronger fences, larger shelters, more space and have more impact on the soil.  If you are a business and have lots of acreage it's doable, but for small farms it can destroy pastures easily.  That's my thinking on it anyhow for what it's worth!

Oh, and Jami, Pedro the bull I bred Daisy to came from a breeder in Oregon and if it's the same breeder he was great stock!  While I didn't trust him of course, he was quite gentle and less then three feet at the shoulder.  We were thinking he might not have gotten the job done since Daisy was a good foot taller (she had the long legs) but he managed.
16 years ago
It says the cornish like I have are crossed with a "rock" to get the cornish rock cross.  Anyone know if they are talking about a plymouth rock?  Is it possible to breed your own cornish crosses?
18 years ago
Here is a link directly to their picture:
http://deberosahomestead.wordpress.com/2007/12/09/dark-cornish-chickens/dark-cornish-chickens/

Sigh, yes I am afraid efficiency is not my top priority here on Deberosa.  I am just learning here.  The Buffs are not for eating, just for egg laying and they do produce a bit better than others I have had in cold weather.  I keep a light in their coop.  I did get 6 sex links last week and they are in a brooder.

As far as the taste of the cornish - it's not the same as the cornish cross, the meat is richer and I tend to cook the birds whole with them rather than debone them.  I like both but the cornish cross turn into such dirty sickly birds that I just don't grow them any more.  They just didn't seem natural to me is all.  The cornish are great foragers!  I am clearing out parts of my property with them where I want the nice salal and huckle berry bushes - they scratch out all of the weeds in large areas.  In their old area I threw down clover seed so in the fall I will switch them back to clean out the garden and eat the clover while I plant the other area.  Works out for me.  Once the orchard gets established I may try them in there, but they roost high in trees so that may be a problem.

I got my homestead in 2003.  It was an old abandonned place.  It took me three months to clear enough brambles to get to the back of the barn!  I found a hen house completely set up so began my first experience with chickens.  Of course I ordered a couple of everything from McMurray's.  I let them Free Range - a little too free they were destroying everything!  Gradually I've gotten fences put in and at least a bit of a method to my madness.  Added a Dexter cow and was supposed to get three pigs today but that didn't pan out - they will be clearing another acre for me this summer for more pasture/forage growing.
18 years ago
Hi,

I am new here but I really did not like the cornish/cross chickens - too nasty. 

I am trying Dark Cornish Chickens.  I got a batch last year and they were ready for harvest right around 12 weeks.  They are a beautiful bird, not as meaty as the cross of course, but very tasty!  They have a very thick skin so we didn't skin them like the cross, rather pluck and freeze whole.

I left the hens and a few roos and turned them loose in a brushy area I have.  Put in a few dogloos and chicken tractors with straw for nests.  I had one hen hatch out three chicks in March!  Now I have several others on nests in various places so they will be self propogating.  They clear the weeds and bugs and will not roost inside, rather they prefer trees in the worst of weather!  I haven't had a mean rooster among them!

You can see some pictures of them on my blog at deberosahomestead.wordpress.com

Next I am going to try crossing them with my buff orpington layers to see what comes out...
18 years ago