Jim Lea

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Interesting Morgan, any links you can share?
Jim
5 years ago
Good stuff everyone. Thanks for the input. Im going to give it a go. Any thoughts on inches of water a week. I have never grown them.
Jim
5 years ago
Kirk, I guess I was reading to fast. Your idea about placing temp fences is indeed great! Why not try out an area first to see if it is a fit.
I like.
Jim
5 years ago
I like the tall steep hugle beds and wind fence ideas you all brought up. Also I had not yet observed how exactly trees interact with snow. We are pretty new here and this is all good stuff to us to know use and look for
Jim
5 years ago
I guess I'm thinking some might be considering me going gaga over this, but then I thought most dont know where Tehachapi is. While we live among tall pines and oak shrub. Just 400 feet below us is barren sage and nothingness. We are just minutes from the Mojave desert. Our relative humidity is most often 30 or so. Couple all that with the wind and this snow thing is pretty big to us. I see it as possibly the difference of make or break.
Dont get me wrong I have not taken offense to anything anyone has said at all. It is all good. I'm just filling in the gaps here. We are not blessed with 40 in of rain a year and all that comes with it. We live 10 month droughts every year. Its hard... just sayin...
5 years ago
Devon, very interesting post. I have never heard of the killpecker (hurts just to say it) dunes. This is kind of like the underground water bulge/bubble effect in permie books i think.
I believe that the bubble will be in the same spot year after year here in my golden spot. If I dont put trees there Im missing the boat. I like the idea of texture design to catch snow. Not sure yet how to design for it yet. Building large mountains like in my photo is not practicle... he he
Jim
5 years ago
I certainly can not argue that snow can be deciveing. And I also should say part of the reason I am so excitrd is that right now we truck in water. So tapping any new resorce is huge to our lives.
I didnt discuss any of my math yesterday, just wanted to get the idea out there. I figure we would get near 50% more water per year in an area similar in snow depth. Calc'd at 1 in per foot of snow.
If used with a hugle and trees below to catch the water bulb that forms below a swale or hugle (underground) the trees can benifit in a huge way. We fall into the arid catagory here with 11.5 in/anually and very windy. we are a huge wind power area.
In the golden area I found, I figure it is 60X20. We got a total of snow this year of maybe 30 inches. That drift area got lets say 3 times that 90 inches total (I think more). Lets say for sake of discussion there is an inch of rain in a foot. That's 7.5 inches of rain in that area from snow. That equals 750 cubic feet of water. 5602 gallons of water. Thats more than our water man can haul in one trip. He can hold 4000 gallons and the cost is a steep! Now we can adress the water a flat area got. 747 gallons. BUT. There were areas that were blown dry! Some areas that were in wind tunnels recieved nothing, the wind blew it into the drift.
Concerning growing season and snow melt. It is not a problem here as the snow is melted already and last frost date here is June 15. I do understand how it could be a problem elsewhere. Adapting with rocks for solor gain might be an option. Solar traps might work. Improvise,adapt,overcome was our moto in the Marines. I think a drift could be usefull in some way.
For me I think it will be short season vegies on the hugle and orchard trees below. For deep watering long season watering.
To sum up, it may not be for everyone, but this permie is going to jump on it.
Thanks Paul (if you read this) for providing a great gathering spot for friendly discussions like this one.
Jim
5 years ago
Great ideas all of you. Thankks for taking the time to help out. I think I have some good stuff to go on now.
Jim
5 years ago
Thanks for the thoughts Jay. Just might try it! Cant hurt right.
Jim
5 years ago
I have read Mollison's,Sepp's books, watched Lawtons Dvd's and searched the web for tips and tricks to help grow food and shape the land. I have yet to see anyone address what I am going to show/present here. Im not saying in anyway that it is not out there. Just that I have not seen it.
I drive a lot for a living and always have my eyes open to see what people are doing and how they do it. As all the greats preach, "observe, observe, observe"
The other day I saw the hillside in the attached picture. It wasn't untill nearly two weeks later that the light bulb went off. I realized what I was seeing.
We had a foot of snow fall and it was accompanied by a fair amount of wind. Most all the snow melted in 2 days. Not this area! It lasted for over two weeks! I believe two things are going on here. First and foremost, the snow was deposited deeper here in this band. I believe that the wind caused it. The wind blows toward the camera in the picture. The hill caused a vortex as it crested the hill blowing and dropping more snow just leeward of the top of hill. Something like 7 times as much. Remember most of the snow was gone in two days. This stayed over two weeks.
It is in an area that gets morning sun too.
For some people they may be able to spot this sort of situation and take advantage of it, by means of hugle mounds or swales. In effect it is a drift. One that will come back year after year!
I hear you now, not everyone has 80 acres of hillside. Your right, but everyone that has snow likely has a reocurring drift area that they can identify, and take advantage of year after year. It could be an area the size of a patio, who knows. Where I live we get 11.5 inches of percipitation a year. Trapping even 5X that in the form of snow drifts will make a huge impact on specific areas of our land. Why not let mother nature put water where she wants it, then take advantage of it.
The other thing that is happening there in that belt of snow is that there is less dessicating wind. The snow will melt slower and absorb. Im sure many more things are going on but my purpose here is just to make someone aware of a resourse they my not readily see. Not all landscapes are as barren as the picture. If it were covered with brush and trees I doubt I would have noticed it at all.
I have surveyed our area (20 acres) and have already spotted drift areas. Some are more tricky as they are not drift deposits but simply deep shade. I found one that was both! Golden. In this area in the summer the sun is higher and the shade much less. I sang the MC Hammer song out there in the woods... Da,da,da,da HUGLE time! If you dont know the song please forgive my lame ass sense of humor, you did'nt miss much. Also this was typed on a phone with the auto spell check off so please forgive my poor spelling. Spell check is often worse. I once sent pictures of owl boxes to my dad. Titled Owl condominiums. He got Owl condoms! Ahh!
Hope this post helps someone find a new good spot on their land. Maybe it is the same spot a choice plant or tree is thriving in already. Nature is our teacher. We must read from its book and learn...
Cheers,
Jim in Tehachapi CA
5 years ago