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Saphonian wind turbine?

 
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Hello,

I saw the saphonian wind turbine. It looked great but, does it really works?
And is it possible to make one by yourself?

Greetings, Matis
 
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I doubt it works like they claim. Here is the patent, and it is slightly different in the patent then what they are advertising.

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/WO2012039688.pdf

This opinion is from a discussion I was reading and I follow behind the author's assessment.

zevulon wrote: one of the characteristics of light fraud is that it claims extraordinary superiority, uses expensive show and tell video's and promotions, and doesn't even bother to first explain the precise and simple source of the difference in performance.

this video above is classic. i've seen it so many times. i'm 95% sure that when you go to their website to investigate their contraption, you will either see no explanation or you will see an explanation that is either highly confusing to make you think you don't understand something about why its' different.

most of the time, complexity or sheer absence of explanation belies fraud. 99% of the time, the basic source of a legitimate performance difference can be explained in a relatively simple fashion and therefor WILL be. when something works , it usually does so for simple reasons, and because this is the case, the simple explanation will be forthcoming.

lack of a simple forthcoming explanation is invariably 95% of the time evidence of something either being fraudulent or simply wrong. You don't even have to waste your time on investigating. 20 to 1 odds you are wasting your time by investigating but you should have known something like this is a fraud in it claims.



The promotion video discussed is below. (snake oil)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=68x-1X6tRls

Source
http://www.gizmag.com/saphonian-bladeless-wind-turbine/24890/
 
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Hmm, well it actually sounded too good to be true.
Unfortunately...
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