• Post Reply Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic
permaculture forums growies critters building homesteading energy monies kitchen purity ungarbage community wilderness fiber arts art permaculture artisans regional education skip experiences global resources cider press projects digital market permies.com pie forums private forums all forums
this forum made possible by our volunteer staff, including ...
master stewards:
  • Nancy Reading
  • Carla Burke
  • r ranson
  • John F Dean
  • paul wheaton
  • Pearl Sutton
stewards:
  • Jay Angler
  • Liv Smith
  • Leigh Tate
master gardeners:
  • Christopher Weeks
  • Timothy Norton
gardeners:
  • thomas rubino
  • Jeremy VanGelder
  • Maieshe Ljin

Aquaponics GreenHouse involving trees...ideas??

 
Posts: 53
Location: Ely and Minneapolis, MN Zone 3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Well...It looks like Karma has shown me yet another wonderful path. This one takes the place of moving to farm country in the Saint Croix Valley of Wisconsin. I'm mostly going to use this as a posting of my progress.

The 1st main Permie project is going to be building a greenhouse aquaponics system. I'm wanting to build the greenhouse big enough, so it can be both a "Zen Garden" and functional space capable of sustaining 4 fruit trees. I think this will be the biggest hurdle...I'll need to accomodate for growth for the trees, but I may train the trees to grow more horizontal.

Everything else is basically a wiiiiide open playing field of ideas. If there's anyone out there with suggestions. Feel free to post them.
 
author
Posts: 961
Location: Appalachian Rainforest of NC, 2200' elevation, 85" precip, Zn 7
77
3
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Hi Don,
Trees in a greenhouse is an awesome plan. I have a 24x38 greenhouse, 10 foot walls with a peaked roof, and we are in zone 6. It is sheathed in triple wall polycarnonate, and is not heated in any way other than passive solar.

The trees I like best are the oriental persimmons (Fuyu, Hachiya), and I also really like grapes (Ruby, Perlette) trained up into the ceiling trusses. Both of these do really well with winter dormancy, so you still get maximum sunlight Dec-Mar, and these perennials dont suffer any cold damage. They then have very broad leaves in the growing season. In the first years, we grew tomatoes and lettuce wall to wall, but over time, have converted it to a forest jungle of food. I have noticed a 15 degree cooling effect in summer from these large leaved plants, so all the other veggies and such that are grown undernaeath do very well. We grow salad greens and such in the winter and peppers/eggplants/okra in the summer.

The aquaponic component will help to buffer temp swing so that is a good thing as well.
Having a small deck or patio in your greenhouse is really nice as an entry and workspace. Mine gets used tons, both for gardening and recreation.

Good luck on your plan and feel free to ask any questions that may come up.
 
Posts: 23
Location: Central Texas
1
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Sound like an awesome ideal. I have thought about some type of citrus tree like a lime in the green house.
 
Posts: 92
Location: Madison, WI
2
  • Mark post as helpful
  • send pies
    Number of slices to send:
    Optional 'thank-you' note:
  • Quote
  • Report post to moderator
Your greenhouse idea really does sound Zen. I love that idea, actually. If I ever get a bigger greenhouse I'd love to try a bit of that.

Have you gotten any further on your system? I'd love to see pictures.
 
All the other guys liked the pretty girls, but I always like you, tiny ad
rocket mass heater risers: materials and design eBook
https://permies.com/w/risers-ebook
reply
    Bookmark Topic Watch Topic
  • New Topic