Permaculture for Millionaires

folks, we need to stay on topic here.  maybe some of this stuff would be better in a new thread?

US birth rate is declining in the current recession/depression.  http://pewsocialtrends.org/pubs/753/american-birth-rate-decline-linked-to-recession-

But several affluent countries have a negative population growth, with death rate exceeding birth rate.  This isn't because people are being killed, but because people are having fewer babies. Japan and Germany are two I can immediately think of but there are a couple others.

Of course there are some drawbacks to a very low birth rate.  The economy is likely to slow or stop growing, and difficulty will be had supporting social programs with fewer new tax payers coming on board.  But these could be solved by moving to a different economic system with permaculture, and putting more emphasis on people helping each other instead of everyone having to struggle alone in the especially American ideal of "paddle your own canoe." 



Sorry about that!  Maybe we could be split off somehow?

I think we've strayed a little, but demographics and economic trends are probably relevant to the topic.

Potentially, hyperinflation could make us all "millionaires," but the spirit of the thread is to use "millionaire" in the sense of having much more wealth than a typical person. Trends in typical people, and in the growth or decay of wealth in general, are pretty salient to that point.

Paul and Jocelyn talk about "greed" in this podcast: http://www.richsoil.com/permaculture/455-podcast-085-greed/

They compare greed to wealth.

Gunter Pauli does a fairly convincing job - I think the suit and tie, not to mention that he is a successful CEO helps his case:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piH8lIZDwLQ

Podcast 085 Greed

The Wolf and the Lamb - Aesop Fable:
A wolf comes upon a lamb and, in order to justify taking its life, accuses it of various misdemeanours, all of which the lamb proves to be impossible. Losing patience, it says the offences must have been committed by someone else in the family and that it does not propose to delay its meal by enquiring any further about the matter. The morals drawn are that the tyrant can always find an excuse for his tyranny and that the unjust will not listen to the reasoning of the innocent.

Nothing to be surprised by. 

Pick the right land.
Design a PC system with veneer lumber like cherry, black walnut, and assorted oaks. Add in gensing plants and other harvestable herbs.
Establish working ecosystem supporting plants and animals allowing for the production of raw materials.
Put in woodworking, herbal product manufacturing, and other cottage industries.
Plan in visitor housing and attractive landscaping.
Make sure there are facilities to allow teaching and gatherings.

You can design the economy as well as the ecosystem need to support the economy.
Think of economy as what will be produced and how it will be destributed.
Key is value added when interacting with cash economy.
And value added extends to creating an experience just think about when you eat out.

Paul delves into this topic quite a bit in podcast 85 ("Greed") - it's an interesting look at the perception of greed in permaculture, the place profits have, and how the third ethic is used and abused:

https://permies.com/t/60107/Podcast-Greed