John Galt

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I am planning to build a house and am working on floor plans. Without getting into too much detail of types of rocket mass heaters, is there a good general guideline of how much space I should allocate for a "typical" (if there is such a thing) rocket mass heater?

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John
6 years ago
Hi All,

For the last few days, I've been thinking about ways to make permaculture mainstream. I think the easiest way would be for somebody to be producing food with permaculture that is capable of competing with something you would buy from a grocery store. I had considered the idea of having some type of permaculture certification but I'm not sure that would be such a great idea since most permaculture operations are small and the costs could be high to have somebody visit each farm regularly and make a certification, as is done with organic. Other issues would be that permaculture is by definition defying standards and it would be very difficult to class each operation on how 'perma' they are.

My next idea was that the idea of getting permaculture to fit in with mainstream is just wrong and it should be the other way around. Instead of certifying, we need to get people to visit permaculture farms in person and participate in some way or another. That way, we build community and friendships and people can ask the farmers and see exactly what goes into the produce. One problem I can forsee in a poly-culture type of setup is that harvesting becomes difficult. Although this problem may be a solution in a sense.

So, the next idea is to run a permaculture farm as a certain type of pick it yourself model which brings up a new model of food. One parallel I can think of is car junkyards. Junkyards allow people to come in for a small entry fee and then give a heavy discounted rate on parts. The caveat is that there is no guarantee the part you need will be at the junkyard. You have to perform labor to remove the part from a junk car. And, there is no guarantee the part will be in working condition.

With this model, there is small recycling type of ecosystem formed. There are individuals who scavenge good but used tires and sell them to used tire shops. Other people specialize in pulling special parts from a niche market (i.e. old European cars) and selling them on eBay or to mechanics. Other people look for the diamond in the rough -- i.e. a good condition engine on special cars that would normally be very expensive.

I think in a 'pick your own' permaculture farm, this type of ecosystem might be formed. I also think there is great benefit to bringing ordinary people out to the farm, especially children. So, the idea would be that the farmer would give some type of discount if people come in and pick it themselves and perhaps be able to expand operations to areas that are not so easy to harvest. Perhaps the farmer could charge a fixed cost for whatever you can shove in a certain sized bag/box or a price per pound or even a flat fee for whatever you can haul out with your hands.

Not everyone will go for this type of model, but everyone can participate. Some people might be too busy to come to pick their produce and others might be too sick/frail. Other people, such as the unemployed/underemployed/poor may be able to have their produce subsidized by going to the farm and picking up produce for their neighbors and delivering it to their neighbors' houses. Farmers could also offer further discounts/trade by having their customers contribute labor at certain planned events.

What do you guys think about this idea and do you have any other ideas to make permaculture more mainstream?


John
12 years ago
Thanks for the reference, Bill. Moscow is on our target list for properties and I will definitely contact the owner. It's good to know there's already some permaculture "infrastructure" in the area. We're postponing our Idaho trip for a few weeks so we can go to the permies event in San Diego, so it looks like we'll be visiting in the end of March.

John
12 years ago
Sure, let's stay in touch.
12 years ago
Yeah, that's the big kicker of time between starting planting and harvesting. I could be looking at 2-3 years for some berries and 3-5+ years for an orchard. I've talked with a bunch of people who have done it and the best advice I've heard so far is to take it slow and not blow all of your money on one big idea.
12 years ago

Jeremey Weeks wrote:Sounds like you're dialed in.

My primary reason for choosing Washington was the lack of a state income tax. Things in Idaho are cheaper, so it's a calculation to know which works best.



Well, right now we have no income in WA/ID and the idea is to slowly switch over to either a small scale permaculture farm + a work-from-home business or one of us getting a job in town as the last option. Some of the ideas I have are probably illegal from a zoning perspective, so it would be better to try them out in a place where people don't seem to care.

One thing I'm looking to do is specialize in a few high-end crops and sell at a premium price. Right now, I'm thinking about tomatoes and berries and having an orchard, but I am still doing research on local crops in the area and pricing.
12 years ago
We're looking for something off-grid, probably on the Idaho side due to less regulations with forest/timber land with some flat land and some hilly land in an unincorporated area. It would be good to be 75 miles or less from CDA and Spokane. Ultimately, we would like to build our own house. It would be nice if it had some type of semi-livable dwelling on it like a trailer, but we don't want to spend too much on a dwelling since we have our own plans for building. Owner financing would be nice but not necessary. We already have an agent in CDA and there's a ton of properties on the prospect list. I ended up limiting it down by putting each one in a point system on a spreadsheet and assigning points based on characteristics like price, location, taxes, winter issues like plowing a private road, etc.
12 years ago
Hi All,

My girlfriend and I are looking to buy 5-20 acres in the Couer d'Alene/Spokane area for homesteading and permaculture. We are planning a trip this March and I wanted to see if anyone with property in the area might be willing to give us a tour of their homestead so we might learn about the climate/seasons, what crops to grow, details on buying property, etc.

Thanks,

John Galt
12 years ago
I would be interested in visiting to see what you are up to and help if possible. My girlfriend and I are looking to buy land in the PNW (probably N. Idaho) and will be visiting again in February. We also have plans to build an underground house.
13 years ago
I would look into land that has owner financing. The no debt is a laudable goal, but starting a business and getting through the first few years can be rough going -- especially with something like permaculture. Even if you have the capital to pay off the land in full, I would try to avoid doing so until you have proven that your operation can be profitable and you have an income that is self-sustaining from the property. If you don't do this, you run the risk of exhausting your startup capital and needing to look to outside sources for more financing.
13 years ago