herbert prohl

Hi Paul,

Best food forest grower greetings from France (( -:',

Thank you for the show !¡!

Never give up, please.

The stuff you do it's like planting seeds, trees need time to grow.

I have been diagnosed with arthritis 15 years ago, too much pain in the joints, got prescribed pills which didn't help.
I changed my diet, this took soooome time to get used to.
No more pain for the last 12 years.

All the best to you,

Herb

some more:

http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/pomegranate.html

https://hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/proceedings1996/V3-416.html#Pomegranate

,:- )

pomegranade really grows well from seed, maybe one of your seedlings will be the best one ever & coldhardy ,: -)
here they just survive ... it's best to mound them up for cold & water drainage.
Here some to buy: http://www.fig-baud.com/grenadiers.html
cordially,

Herb

Bonjour David,

Oh, I have plenty of rootstock for pear, plum, peach, apricot ... Some seedling trees have gooood apricots and plums and the seedlings give us a large harvesting window..

Happy planting ,:- )

cordially,

Herb

Hi David,

I have got plenty of hawthorns I can graft on, scions are fast growing on a already developed root system.
Here are the scions:

http://www.fruitiers.net/bourse.php

better page than the initial link.

,:- )

Herb

Grow you own fruit trees!

Or:

Why planting seeds?


Every year since 2006 all of us: Anne, Javier, Leo, Kean & I have planted hundreds of seeds, of fruits we ate throughout the year, of the best peaches, apricots, plums and also a few cherry pips.

From fruit we had bought and eaten, instead of throwing them away into the compost they went into the ground.

Each summer the soil here dries up and long deep cracks open up filling slowly with topsoil, plant debris being blown in there by the wind.

Not much work at all they just dropped in.

Every year since then we have about 20 or so new seedlings growing up all over the garden. Some will die of thirst, be eaten by wildlife or get cut when I clear for walkways.

But, you might say, they will not grow true to type, nor have any fruit or if so only small ones!

Here are our reasons to plant them:

You have bought the fruit and the stone and each time you throw away a seed/stone you throw away a potentially beautiful and fruit bearing tree!

Any seedling growing in whatever soil you have, apparently liked the conditions to get started.

If it survives it will establish a strong root system.

It will probably get smaller fruit, but it will still be delicious, nutritious & healthy home grown fruit. We have already enough plums and apricots throughout the whole harvesting season from seedling trees.

So you still do not like the outcome? You can always graft the tree with your favorite variety or just leave the fruits for the wildlife to enjoy.

Finally, all plants grown from seed will enrich biodiversity as the plants/trees you have created is a new variety!


The tiny input of work, to poke a little hole into the ground, drop some seeds and cover them with soil or just a stone is well worth it ,:- )

]Grafting onto Hawthorn - Crataegus[/size]


Following is a list of fruit species to graft onto hawthorn root stock... (all from the Rosaceae family).

If you have wild growing hawthorns why not graft your favourite fruit tree onto them.

I will not graft all the hawthorns growing here, the oldest will remain as a valuable resource for domestic bees and all other insects looking for pollen and nectar in spring and also for the medical use of the flowers & fruit.

Grafting low will prevent too many wild suckers growing below the graft union and will allow to mount soil up above the graft union to allow formation of own roots for difficult graft unions like pear or juneberry ...

1. All "other" Crataegus interesting for bigger fruits, e.g.: Crataegus arnoldiana, Crataegus azarolus, Crataegus durobrivensis, Crataegus ellwangeriana, Crataegus missouriensis, Crataegus schraderiana, Crataegus submollis, Crataegus succulenta, Crataegus tanacetifolia

2. German medlar, (Mespilus germanica), used by nurseries, easy.

3. Quince, (Cydonia oblonga), (Chaenomeles cathayensis), also as intermediate graft/inter-stock for pears & apples, quince overgrows hawthorn, but to a lesser degree than pear, easy.

4. Mountain ash, (Sorbus aucuparia), e.g. cultivar "Concentra" ...

5. Juneberry, (Amélanchier ...) - best grafted low and after a few years mount soil up above the graft union to allow formation of own roots, easy.

6. Chokeberry, (Aronia melanocarpa), also commonly called black chokeberry, best grafted low and after a few years mount soil up above the graft union to allow formation of own roots.

7. Pear, (Pyrus communis), try the varieties "Joséphine de Malines" or "Beurré Le Brun" as first (or final), intermediate graft and then your choice of pear, otherwise best grafted low and after a few years mount soil up above the graft union to allow formation of own roots, pear overgrows hawthorn and might need a tutor to avoid breaking at the graft union.
http://mapassionduverger.fr/greffage/greffage-sur-aubepine/

8. Service tree, (Sorbus domestica), not easy.

9. Japanese medlar, (Eriobotrya japonica), adds cold hardiness to medlar, not easy.

Where to get scion wood? Here, the goldmine for scion wood: http://fruitiers.net/, if you need help signing in let me know.

Have fun grafting ,;- )


Please note: Hawthorn is a fire-blight host.

Hi to all forest gardeners - or want to be - out there

For the second time we offer the opportunity for a person, 2 persons or a couple, to further their experience and deepen their knowledge of food forests ( ff ) for the
2015 growing season (late May to early October 2015), in the High Alps - in the South East of France. (zone 6b)

Duaration: from one week to ...

We have created a facebook group where you can find info and pictures related to forest gardening/food forests and plants growing here under:

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In return, we will need help with the system maintenance and the continuation of planting (see list below).

Knowledge of permaculture / horticulture, on ff and computer skills (programming) are desirable.

We encourage people with strong motivation, an open mind, a sense of experimentation, environmental awareness, (non smokers).

To apply, please send an email to: une.foret.comestible @ gmail.com , expressing your interest. We will reply in the next few days.

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Activity (work) time is about three hours per day or 7x3 hours = 21h weekly, distributed depending on weather conditions, as often as the situation requires (e.g. attention to the seedlings, watering, etc, capture of bee swarms.)

There are no machines available, but you can, if you want , for example, use your own trimmer. Hand tools are available.

Here is a list of work planned for the year 2015

- maintaining the ff system continuously
- grafting
- establishment of a vegetable garden according to permaculture principles
- multiplication and planting of perennials and annuals
- creation and updating of a website and blog ff
- various design & construction work: solar shower, dry toilet , solar stove, beeswax melter, solar fruit & veggie dryer
- work on an apiary
- rehabilitation of a poultry shed
- continue fencing work
- inventory, on paper and computer and geolocation, of plants already in place
- seed collection

We offer:

- Learning about all the work described above in a ff environment, started nine years ago
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- Use of a small library on ff, permaculture, medicinal & aromatic plants, in English, French and German
- The realisation of your ideas and projects (if possible) : e.g., study on biodiversity etc.
- Possibility of taking grafts and seedlings (subject to availability ) for your personal use

The persons who accept the offer of sharing can also stay on an independent basis , the village, in a tent, or (small) camper.

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