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We would use a food grade glycol and put solar electric panels to run the pump. I thought this was very smart, so the system runs automatically. It is very important to use the right liquid though, if it freezes or even gels you will have a catastrophic failure.

Is anyone familiar with these?

https://hydrosolar.ca/products/vacuum-tube-solar-collector-srcc-certified-xianke-xkph58-complete-with-manifold-frame-tubes-and-30-frame-kit

I used to instal them for city homes but I thought they would really be better used in a situation like you guys are chatting about. Heat the ground deep in a greenhouse or the slab floor. These solar tubes work amazing in the cold as long as the sun shines

I feel like I have about eight hours of stuff to say here.  

I think that when offering a gardening gardeners program, a person would provide land, staple foods, humble bunks and a lot of information about their own values.  

Thank you. That makes sense and I am working towards it.

Hey Paul am I right thinking that to make your gardening gardeners or bootcamp plans work it starts with the Paul or an Otis being crazily generous?
It is a goal of mine to do something very similar to your "boot camp"
I feel that I need to provide food and accomodations before I can really invite Boots. I think you said most Otis' have a spare house on their property. I don't but I have aspirations of wofatis and cordwood cabins.
So would you say plentiful sunchokes, walking onions and clean water. Plus accomodations is the minimum requirements to invite Boots?

I for one am looking forward to the gardening gardeners book.

Nice to hear from you Rose. I need to update the cordwood pet house. It has had a roof on for two winters and no critters got frost bite.
I will pm you.

I just wanted to say thank you to Paul for the work you do. This podcast "gardening gardeners" and creating a framework to build communities like Wheaton labs.
A wise man said "all the world's problems can be solved in a garden" or something to similar effect 😉 and Paul is doing a lot to help in that direction. I am slowly working towards replicating "the labs" at my place. Which will be difficult because I am bigger, meaner and smellier than anyone for a half mile around.

I am searching for companionship and community ultimately, however I live pretty far out. So I am thinking I should modify my goals, learn to run before attempting a marathon.
Where I live I actually do not have cell service or internet. I work five days a week where I do have service and can communicate periodically.
I have 99 problems but surely I have three times that many blessings. I would like to tell you about my forest and gardens and animals, and goals. And I would like to hear all about your situation and goals as well.

Wishing you all calm and sunshine as needed, ciao.

I am out, by my own mistake my goats learned the zap of electric fence is no big deal. And soon my garden area was no more. This was a very costly lesson to me as I had saplings in the area also. I will rebuild bigger next year.
Ciao

Looking great Dian, you are miles ahead of me but I am happy to be in the game.