John Anderson used to be a Liberal Party Deputy Prime Minister (That is a Conservative Party for you International folks)
In the linked
video, he interviews Governor-General Major General Michael Jeffery AC, (AO (Mil), CVO, MC (Retd) and a Regenerative Farmer Charlie Maslin who is using
Permaculture principles to regenerate his landscape (without saying the word).
The interview talks about what all of us here know, such as the importance of
water in brittle landscapes, and how
local transpiration affects plant growth downwind along with proposals as to how we can make this more mainstream, talking from the perspective of ordinary farmers.
Enjoy!