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4.76 acres 4 sale in SE Oklahoma $20k, owner-(not me)-financed,no interest + homestead neighbor(me)

 
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Located between Antlers and Rattan, very close to (but not touching) the Kiamichi river, this 4.76 acre plot just went up for sale. If you don't know the area, this is 25 minutes from a big/cheap/box store (walmart), and the closest local grocery store, gas stations, couple fast food joints, etc. are about 7 miles away.

I really would love to add this land to my own (it's the only adjoining land to mine), but it's just not in my budget, so next best thing is to inform like-minded permies/homesteading folks in the hopes I may get a neighbor with whom to possibly collaborate about permaculture :-). Surely you can find cheaper (and more expensive) land similar to this; generally speaking a portion of the cost is determined by grid electricity and municipal water access, and this piece of land seems to be in comparable/fair price range for the area, maybe a bit higher than some, but then again on the plus side is owner financing/no interest.

bonus homestead neighbor (optional): :P
and, like I said, a homesteading type neighbor.....me!

some fine print:
To be clear, I am not the seller of this land, and I have no vested interest in who might buy it, except I'd LOVE for it to be someone into permaculture (hence this forum post). If you contact me with some basic info I can give you the owner's number. I cannot vouch for the seller or terms of payment, etc, as I don't know them (they bought the land and put down a small concrete driveway pad, and weren't able to be here as much as they wanted / now are selling)... so I'm merely the messenger, but that said, they seem very reasonable. When I spoke with them they were super nice and willing to negotiate payment terms; sounded like he'd be happy with something in the neighborhood of a 5-10 year term, though obviously would prefer selling it outright. If you're interested, I would strongly suggest a contract for deed if you don't buy outright, and consider that in most such cases you don't have any equity until you pay it off (I don't know if the seller plans on supplying a contract, but you should if he doesn't).

the land itself already
The plot is about 85-90% wooded, mix of pine and hard wood (i would have to look more closely, but if like mine there is more pine but decent amount of hardwood). Talking with neighbors, it seems much, perhaps all, this land was cleared about 80-90 years ago and was part of a larger farm/ranch. I haven't tested the soil, but as far as I can tell doesn't seem like it's been used for or contaminated by anything (appears untouched in all the digging and exploring I've done on mine so far). There is nothing built on the land except a smallish concrete pad (travel trailer size) off the one road. You would have 2 adjoining neighbors (me and then eastern neighbors are very nice and super handy with building and all kinds of tinkery stuff).

The sort of creek (not really) is so 'seasonal' that really it doesn't even trickle during dry season, and seems to kind of disappear into the ground as it runs from west to east across the property (depending on how much water is in it). When it's not running there are standing puddles, so not sure if those are springs, or just the actual water table... it *could* be the water table bubbling up, but not sure as topo maps seem to indicate water could be as much as 80 ft down. That said, it *might* be as shallow as 20 feet up closer to the southern border. So, hey, maybe you could do one of those water drilled wells, but rainwater catchment is working great for me, so haven't seen the point to move a well up on my own homestead priorities list yet.

FWIW --as far as prospective neighbors go...
Personally  I've only been living here full time about a year and just starting to get a homestead established (got the land in 2012 and struggled to get a place built and moved. Now, almost a year later, I have initial working versions of water catchment, solar power, grow beds, and so much more yet to...'establish'). FWIW, I intend on focusing on plant-based food, am interested in food forest, and just about any tinkery permacultury projects! I would love to collaborate on this kind of stuff, or on projects related to sharing/teaching and helping others transition to permaculture, such as non-capitalist cooperatives and wherever else our permaculture interests might intersect. I enjoy solitude (wouldn't be buzzing around all the time), but would love to have more neighbors into permaculture as I'm sure we could accomplish that much more, whatever our specific shared goals/projects. I'm always happy to exchange knowledge or lend a hand with house building or whatever other homestead-establishing works.

Like I've mentioned, if you look long enough most certainly could find something similar, possibly for less money (not that it's overpriced as far as I know (which isn't tons // do your research!)), even probably something also with payment option, so I'm not trying to claim anything super special about this land, though, having qualified all that, I'll also say since starting on this homesteading adventure (and as much as I enjoy solitude in nature), in hindsight if I could have moved to an area with a permaculture neighbor I would view that as a much bigger plus than I would have when first searching for land.

just sayin! // Who knows, if you're reading this, and you've been thinking about getting your own place to live it up and live in balance with nature, maybe this is for you.
 
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