the first one looks like a kind of poke weed. If it is Poke, the berries make a good die and the leaves can be blanched and eaten.
I cant see the second plant very well
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Yeah, for sure poke on the first one, it is delicious and some old timers I know say they wouldn't change the water on first poke shoots any more than for asparagus. Later grown leaves as a famine food, maybe. Poke is IMHO the most delicious greens, simply prepared in soft water with country ham or salt pork and seasoned with hot pepper vinegar...
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