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David SewaK- Any information on inoculating Chantelles spores onto oak roots

 
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Hi David,

Yours is a book I definitely want to get onto my shelves. Do YOU have any information about getting chanterelle mushrooms started on oak roots? I heard of someone putting his rinse water
which he had washed his chanterelles and poured it onto the ground around the area of oak roots. He got chanterelles growing under the tree. I guess it all depends on whether you have spores in the water.
Do you have more thoughts on this?
BTW, are there preferred oaks that are better that chanterelles prefer to grow on? In other words, is there a trick to picking the tree. Also, do mushrooms compete for space? We already have wild mushrooms all over this area. Will one mushroom lock out other mushrooms and defend their turf? Truly, the world of mushrooms is like a new continent, so much of the world of microbes and mushrooms is the beginning of an adventure, a world waiting to be discovered!
 
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It's a tricky thing introducing mushrooms, many times an area is already occupied. Depending on how aggressive the current resident is will determine if you will have success. We had some success with horn of plenty, I simply dug up and area where I found them and placed on the property in what I felt best replicated where they came from. Other chanterelles I did not have success. In Sepp Holzer's "Perma-Culture" he hangs fresh mushrooms in a mesh bag over an area-an onion bag would work, and puts a small wind chimewith something soft/gentle to"tap" the bag when it blows. You could hang a few prime in a bag where you think they will grow and try that too. As far as the oaks go I am not sure- we had a dominate forest of red oak (Gypsy moths wiped out most of the white in the 80s-90s) so I don't have an honest feel for that.

Love your last line I just did a pod cast yesterday and the last question was "What mushroom will be your holy grail?"My response "Next one I find"If your on facebook checkout Mycelial Mayhem I found one of ifnot the biggest morel I have ever picked yesterday!

I hope you do get our book on your shelf we cover a whole lot from cultivating, wild picking, recipes and running a small niche business, you can order it directly from us at www.mycelialmayhem.com and we'll sign it too! Good luck in your endeavor and let us know how it goes.

Dave
 
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Is there any research about which mushrooms are more entrenched and won't let other mushrooms grow in their area? Frankly, there are so many questions we don't know the answers for when it comes to growing mushrooms, especially those that live on roots. I found this link about cultivating chantrelles; however, it's 10 years old, I haven't heard any more from the researcher than this: http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Flavorful-Fungus-Farmed-For-1st-Time-in-Oregon-2857440.php
And on the permies., Paul Stamets put the chantrelles spores into the soil--https://permies.com/t/3392/fungi/Growing-Chanterelles

So much research still need to be done...
 
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Just a little info from my own experience about propagating chanterelles:

We have chanterelles growing in our forest in downeast Maine. Originally they grew in one place under some young trees, mostly firs. Following advice I had read someplace, I collected them in a basket and swung it as I walked down the dirt drive back to the house. Supposedly that spread the spores. Now they have spread into many areas along and even in the middle of the driveway. They don't seem to be growing in the original spot any more. Our forest is mostly a mix of fir, white pine, spruce, and cedar, with some birch, swamp maple, oak, chokecherry. I haven't noticed that they favor one tree over another.

I tried once to spread them to another location in another town under a white pine, but it didn't take.

 
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