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Where to find Tim Peters Perennial rye?

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posted 14 years ago

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I have been interested in growing perennial grains but cannot find a good source for seeds. Can anybody help me out? It seems like the link to peters seeds is dead...

Rachell Koenig

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posted 13 years ago

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I too am looking for perennial rye grain.. and I think the rye grass is different? If anyone knows where i can find some, or swap me, that would be great.

Kota Dubois

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posted 13 years ago

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http://www.adaptiveseeds.com/content/rye-millwright-perennial

This is the only place I've been able to track it down to. I ordered mine last week by mail (since I'm not in the USA), and I'd appreciate it if you would wait a bit before ordering to make sure that it won't be sold out before my order arrives

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Matt Smith

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Location: Central Ohio, Zone 6A - High water table, heavy clay.

posted 13 years ago

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Holy hell! I didn't know about this type of thing going on outside the Land Institute.

Definitely worth some experimentation for such a price, methinks.

Matt Smith

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Location: Central Ohio, Zone 6A - High water table, heavy clay.

posted 13 years ago

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Update: purchased some! I will be doing my best to establish it on my budding homestead this year. Incredibly excited.

Found some documentation online from an ex-pat American who has tried growing this stuff in the Netherlands.

http://bifurcatedcarrots.eu/2011/07/tim-peters-perennial-rye/

John Polk

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posted 13 years ago

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I have read that the perennial rye will actually live longer on poor soil than it will on rich soil.

An interesting read on Tim Peter's work:
http://www.seedambassadors.org/Mainpages/timesquiettriumph.htm

Matt Smith

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Location: Central Ohio, Zone 6A - High water table, heavy clay.

posted 13 years ago

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Does anybody know what other plants, if any might be useful to interplant in a perennial rye patch?

Kota Dubois

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posted 13 years ago

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"Does anybody know what other plants, if any might be useful to interplant in a perennial rye patch?"

This perennial rye grows 8 or 9 feet tall at harvest. Perhaps a low growing nitrogen fixer like clover would have enough light part of the year to use. I was just planning on using smallish monoculture blocks of it here and there. Grasses do well as monocultures.

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George Lee

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Location: Athens, GA/Sunset, SC

posted 13 years ago

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Matt Smith wrote:Does anybody know what other plants, if any might be useful to interplant in a perennial rye patch?

hairy vetch worked for me, it will draw up grass stalks abit...

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Kota Dubois

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posted 13 years ago

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Well, today I received an envelope in the mail from Adaptive Seeds. I ripped it open to examine my rye and discovered it contained my money back with a pleasant note saying thanks for the order but sorry we're out of stock. Oh well like the old saying goes, No good deed will go unpunished. Sigh.

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Matt Smith

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Location: Central Ohio, Zone 6A - High water table, heavy clay.

posted 13 years ago

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Kota Dubois wrote:Well, today I received an envelope in the mail from Adaptive Seeds. I ripped it open to examine my rye and discovered it contained my money back with a pleasant note saying thanks for the order but sorry we're out of stock. Oh well like the old saying goes, No good deed will go unpunished. Sigh.

I think they sold out a long time ago, and their system just wasn't sophisticated enough to update when it happened.

I talked to them about it and they said they would try to offer more next year to keep up with demand.

Maine Aaron

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posted 13 years ago

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I have a small amount of unthreshed "mountaineer" perennial rye that i could trade to whoever wants it. I got the original seed stock from PSRseeds a few years ago.

Cate Weaver

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posted 13 years ago

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Check out The Land Institute: http://www.landinstitute.org/

They're focused on many perennial crops, including rye.

Jason Padvorac

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Location: Northeast of Seattle, zone 8: temperate with rainy winters and dry summers.

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posted 9 years ago

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Looks like it is on seed savers exchange here: https://exchange.seedsavers.org/catalog/listing.aspx?itm=126279

Permaculture market farming, plant breeding and perennial grains: http://jasonpadvorac.com

David Hernick

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Location: Oakland, CA

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posted 9 years ago

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I was able to get some of that milwright perenniel rye through seed-savers/adaptive seeds in 2015. it has been listed since 2011 and the seed I got was from 2011. I did not get great germination lot of the seeds turned to mush, I would give the seed more ideal condition if I were to do it again. I only have a few plants. I am attaching picture of the rye flowering, I planted it in the fall and it is now flowering in June. The plant is more impressive than Rye, and has two extra rows! But the seeds do not get as full.

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Jason Padvorac

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Location: Northeast of Seattle, zone 8: temperate with rainy winters and dry summers.

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posted 9 years ago

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I'd really love to get my hands on some perennial rye if anybody has any to spare! I have a crop of tripled perennial wheat from Caleb Warnock coming in, and would be glad to trade.* Or tree collards, perennial kale seeds, and some other interesting stuff I can list out if necessary.

* I planted it late add the seeds aren't mature yet, and it is starting to get rainy here so I can't guarantee I'll get good seed from it this season.

Permaculture market farming, plant breeding and perennial grains: http://jasonpadvorac.com

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