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The toughest part to permaculture, for me, is playing the fool. In conversations with people who haven't taken the time to learn about my INTEREST I'm constantly biting my tongue and holding on to the silence as long as I can. This means being the brunt of jokes and being portrayed as confused. We permaculturists are required to stack functions and diversify our labor. The one's who waste most of my time, money, and energy are the one's closest to me physically in space. In deciding to act as local as possible means for my hometown to pay the bill, as well as my family. The cost is enormous, but I feel the pop effect on the way, unfortunately time becomes the solution as well as the test. I'm tired of absorbing force and ready to create. Anybody hear my cries?

Viva la DUKE!

Disregard my last post. Actually I think we are going to establish home base in Panama City, FLORIDA.

Last post posted in desperation of wanting to quit and leave... We really need to establish on our own a working model in the area we have inhabited. Sometimes as our finances dwindle our emotions take hold and we just say "Fu*k this place;" but it's really okay to fail and continue to fail, however it's not okay to give up and quit. Disregard my last post, we will FIGURE it out!

P.S. Thank you to the individual from Idaho who sent us a reply message.

I agree with Paul in context to the Dalai Lama, in the fact that if he is speaking then he is displaying ego, yet he professes the practice of eliminating and overcoming ego.

It seems as though we have created a polarized decision in reference to having "ego," or being free from it. To have an ego would mean to take on a sense of individuality and autonomy, but to be free of ego would mean we are participating in wholeness and interconnectedness. It's as if we have limited the concept to "either/or" rationale. EITHER you can be separate from the world around you OR you can be connected in the wholeness of everything at all time.

In the attempt to seek balance, maybe we need to operate in a manner that encourages "separate connectedness." So, we will empathize with an individual who is sick and suffering, yet not to a degree that if that individual dies we can no longer live ourselves.

Okay thanks. Yes I am using Firefox. It does it in Microsoft Word 2007 too, I do not know if it squiggles in a newer version of Microsoft. I just checked Merriam Webster's online and the word has been recognized.

Why has spell check not recognized the term "permaculture?" Whether it's Microsoft Word, this forum, or any other text program I get a big red squiggly line underneath the term everytime. Should we seek the formal recognition of the word, like put it in the Dictionary or something?

International Affairs degree with advanced permaculture apprenticeship completed, have WWoof'ed, worked in organic cafe, worked in organic community, nursury experience, and am well versed. Will move anywhere in a heartbeat to do our life's purpose. Man, wife, and newborn!
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It does seem as though access to land would be the most important first step. Banks aren't really lending to young people, especially to ones who are heavily in debt. I highly doubt the permacultural business model impresses the banks also, be it IS the competition. I also imagine the more dollars some one has the less likely they would be to invest holy in the overall scheme of things.

Sure, some one could be doing this all off the grid and under the radar, but how we would we know? Do we want to see some huge bag of vegetables with a dollar receipt as proof, would that be the evidence? Would some one talking about permaculture without property be a problem or the solution?

Haven't read all of the replies, just the question on this post... seems like too much to filter through still.