Kerry Furnell

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Brilliant - I'm sure you'll work it out

Love the calf and the foliage. It's been a few years since I enjoyed a visit to Vermont. My in-laws lost their second home when the Rock River flooded last year, so it's not looking like we'll be back anytime soon. Shame, as it's such a beautiful state.
12 years ago
Hi Leila and thank you for the welcome!

I lived in Edinburgh too, Leith in fact, which despite being 'interesting' (ahem) is somewhere I really enjoyed living. The Dandenongs do however top it quite a bit and we're so lucky to live here

I just joined the permaculture.org.au forum as well actually as I'd spotted a few people on here referring others there. I've been in Aus for 4 years now and although settled, I'm still at that strange stage of being confused between whether I want north or south for full sun and getting a grasp on the huge difference in plants here. Sure, there's the old garden favourites that everyone has the world over, but most Aussie plants I had no experience of until I moved here

Thanks for the tip on the profile. I'll go and figure that out now.
12 years ago
Hi CJ

I just read your thread with interest and love what you're trying to achieve - like others I also love the pond!

With regards to the problem of soil pugging caused by the hooves of your cattle, I can make some suggestions that may help, but they're not specifically permaculture solutions. I'm still very much a beginner when it comes to permaculture!

Perhaps someone can let us know their thoughts on my suggestions?

The pugging is a common problem with cattle herds being allowed to graze land that is wet (like along streams and pond banks), or where they're allowed on pasture too soon after rain. If you have a static hay feeder, so they always go to one spot, pugging will be a problem.

What is actually happening is that the hooves are sinking about 15cm into the soft, wet soil, causing compaction where the hooves go. This destroys the structure of the soil, breaking down the pores and prevent air, water and root penetration. If the soil is clay or silt, it's likely to also set in hard, crusted, pugs when it dries. The compaction and hard setting can significantly reduce pasture coverage in the affected areas.

If you have a higher paddock that doesn't get as wet, you can graze the cattle there more often during the wetter periods. Having more than one feeding, watering and shelter point in a paddock is also a good idea, as it breaks the herd into smaller groups and reduces the impact of the pugging in any one place.

Peter mentioned using several different pasture grasses and that's a really good method. Some grasses can form dense mats and this can also reduce the impact. From memory (you may wish to check this and see what's more suitable for Vermont), kikuyu and paspalam are good at growing in and remediated compacted pasture as their roots are pretty penetrative and deep growing. Kikuyu will die back over your winter months though.

Preventing over-grazing wherever possible and allowing the pasture to grow long before returning that cattle to that paddock, will encourage good root growth. Once that paddock is grazed again, the root growth dies back and adds organic matter to the soil. Moving the cattle around every few days if possible, whilst skipping one paddock to allow recovery is a good idea. Obviously that depends on how many paddocks etc you have

You can also consider the positioning the fences so that, if possible, all the wetter areas are in one paddock and you exclude the cattle from any drainage lines, your swale areas, pond or streams etc. This also means the water is of better quality as it doesn't as easily become polluted by excess nitrates etc from manure.

Sometimes smaller paddocks with faster rotations are better, than larger paddocks with longer rotations. In larger paddocks, especially where a static feeder is placed, you effectively create a "cattle camp" where they all hang out in the one area. Roasting marshmallows, playing loud music, drinking beer... oh wait, that's teenagers! Sorry.

If none of those suggestions are an option, you're own thoughts on creating a hard concrete area are not so far off what many farmers do over wet periods. Concrete feed pads are regularly used in cattle farming. If you're cattle are going to damage the soil structure and prevent pasture growth in a particular area, then you might as well concrete over it. Also, in Scotland cattle are often kept indoors in large concrete floored barns over winter with a straw bedding. They're generally fed on silage and the wastes hosed out, which is pretty unpleasant for the neighbours and can contaminate ground water. Of course, in a sustainable situation you'd collect and compost the waste and use it as an input in the following year. If the winter barn was equipped with drainage, the liquid could also be collected and used as a liquid manure spray on the pastures in spring.

Sorry for the long reply, but I hope I've managed to give you some ideas - you've certainly given me some!
12 years ago
Hi guys

I've been a keen gardener for many years, I'm a one time agriculture student (Scotland) and current horticulture & sustainability student (Melbourne). I study part-time evenings as I have two littlies at home and other than my husband, have no family here I can abandon them with!

My main areas of interest are in sustainability and regeneration of agricultural, brownfield and bush land. Oh and soils!

I volunteer at a local indigenous plant nursery where I am learning a lot about the wonderful plants of the Dandenong Ranges where I live.

I already try to be as sustainable in my gardening methods etc as possible, but am trying to learn more about permaculture and include those principles within my own garden. It's pretty much a test site at the moment, whereby my vegetable patch has expanded to hugelkultur beds under the large gum trees in our front garden and I'm adding trees with edible produce wherever I can.

We are on a typical Aussie plot of just under a quarter acre, with 4 large gums, a large acacia and numerous large shrubs / small trees. My aim is to create a food forest that includes both indigenous and native Australian plants, with some of the more traditional permaculture exotics. With it being a small plot, everything is close to the house!

Anyway, that's me and no doubt you'll see me around asking lots of questions - just hope I don't get too annoying! :blush:
12 years ago