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Thanks r john much appreciated. if finally got the wheel size figured out so now i have to build a scale prototype.

Well im trying to keep the height to a minimium, make it wider and bigger buckets, So far with 12' wheel 6' wide with 500 gallon buckets, 12 on the wheel so roughly 5 with water in them at all times ive got 20,850 lbs for 339,226 newton-meters or 250,200 foot pounds of torque at the shaft. is this correct?

Wow thats exactly what i was looking for 3 rpm is all that wheel turns nice! So a 24 ft tall wheel, @ 2 ft wide or a 12 ft wheel @ 6 ft wide is where my calculations are taking me, Thanks again john.

Thank you very much for the info, that just pointed me in the right direction. now to do some figuring.

lol well now its a challenge so i will be making a trillion on just a prototype YES!
and i will be taking it in big bills please.
Come on Dave obviously your smart and it can be figured out on how big a wheel i need that isnt gigantic. This is the only thing i need to get this going. asuming i got more than enough water to supply it. If you can help me with that you can keep your Trillion lol.

Oh and sorry Dave you did try to help me and i appreciate that thank you very much

I need 60 horse to turn a 25k generator @ 3600 rpm

Well thats why people like me end up with an idea that may or may not work but atleast we try and then thats why they are new inventions. if franklin would have listen to everyone calling him a crackpot then you wouldnt have your electricy or light bulb to start with it can be done just not with those outragous formulas rainwater x acres ? no i just need to know what it would take to make 60 horse power and a 3200 foot wheel is certainly retarded for only 60 horse power thats more like 6000 horse power. And just because you know formulas doesnt mean you know physics, just means you know how to add, thats common sense, gravity, lever and rotation simple. Is there anyone else that can help me figure this out with out being a robot?

ok i know if the water wheel turns slow enough a pump can fill the buckets on the wheel and the generator will run the pump but it has to be worked out just right so it will sustain its self. Ive heard it cant be done but i just makes so much sense to me that i wont let up until i figure it out . im tired of paying $250.00 dollars a month to the electric company every month.

oh ok got the head put thanks that was confusing at first.