Hey guys, great podcast and roundtable discussion.
This is my first post on permies by the way!!
Sounds like ya'll are covering the argument pretty well and seem to be pretty objective in my opinion, especially since most all of you have some experience as vegans. I just want to know why the whole quinoa argument was not brought up? Here are a few articles concerning the quinoa debacle:
http://vegnews.com/articles/page.do?pageId=6345&catId=5
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/jan/16/vegans-stomach-unpalatable-truth-quinoa
http://hereandnow.wbur.org/2013/07/17/busting-quinoa-myth
What I really wanted to piggyback on was the topic of logical fallacies and critical thinking. Not being able to identify fallacious arguments is a very big problem in western culture. I just wanted to leave a few resources for people that may want to study up a bit more. I also would like to introduce the concept of the TRIVIUM.( I will leave a video below) Learning about logical fallacies and the trivium is like "kung fu for the mind,or intellectual self-defense". Jan Irvin of Gnostic Media and Tragedy and Hope Communications have done a mountain of work concerning these topics. I hope they are helpful to some of you. I know they were helpful for me. I also have attached a list of logical fallacies in PDF below.
http://www.triviumeducation.com/
http://www.tragedyandhope.com/
People desperately need to be versed in this stuff. To many people wind up being duped by the talking heads on the boob tube. If you find yourself thinking that the arguments on the evening news make perfect logical sense. THIS IS FOR YOU!
Keep up the great dialogue!
-Kev