Jay C. White Cloud wrote:Hello Jonathan, et al.,
They are typically called PE and there background, and certification is in structural engineering. However, if you don't get one with specific experience with a building modality they may come up with "over kills," and/or tell you you can not do something. We use:
I'm still confused Jay...
I am glad to read you have tangible skill sets for the task before you. What I will point out is until you have over 1000 hours behind any given tool, you are not even competent. After a thousand hours you are adequate, and after 5000 hours proficient, and not until you have a minimum of 10000 hours plus are you even approaching expert. The same goes for designing and implementation of building methods. I meet many "designers," contractors, and even some architects that think they are good at what they do...they aren't by a long shot. My criteria for a client when they have already engaged an Architect is they must know at minimum what I know and can do, if not they are wasting project money that I would rather share with craftspeople and artisans.
I like folks that are confident, and sometimes it is warranted. I have seen some wonderful homes that are extremely well built by there owners. Few would even come close to even "good practice" in overall architecture. It may not be "rocket science," but there is much more to a good design and construction than meets the eye, if you consider the whole package. I would further point out "rocket scientist" and engineers are usually rotten architectural designers and builders, as they over complicate, and try to reinvent too much, or fix what is not broken.
My parents saved tens of thousands of dollars building their own house and we had a great living space growing up so I am under the impression designing a property is not rocket science (as I know because I've done rocket science in college ).
I have a plan (that I have been working on for a very long time) set for my future that I have carefully decided upon that involves
1) me moving back to the northeast,
2) finding, prospecting, and purchasing the right piece of land (with no noisy neighbors) with enough acreage that is financially viable at the time and that already has a house on it,
3) involves me building a house on the opposite side of the property and managing the land into a self-sustaining farm that will allow me to retire at age 45 and live off the food, water, and shelter the property generates.
4) having my investments diversified enough to have money to pay things like medical care etc.
Sounds viable in most respects and achievable in many.
Let me know when you are and for sake of expedancy and sharing please download and use "sketchup" if possible or you may draw by hand. I will help the PE if you can use something like "sketchup" as it has universal appeal for both expert and novice alike. We do all our rendering, modeling and blueprinting with it.
It would be great if we designed the property and shared plans on a site like this on permies.com because I like to share my experiences with people, but I'm not quite there yet.
Sorry I kinda saw it as a 4 stepper but that's ok.
As you see in my 5 step plan,
Yep, and you can keep it all on this thread for posterity.
Thus if you are ready to brainstorm with me now, but are patient enough to wait a year or so then we can start designing more seriously.
I would read through the "growies" section here at permies to start. This is such a broad field, that without knowing the land and your focus for it I feel compelled to say read whatever you can get your hands on that fits your vision.
In the meantime, do you know any good books on forestry management and other principles like coppicing and such? I see that you are in the Arborist trade so I figured you may have a good resource or two to give some nice in-depth knowledge about tree management.
That is a good start, but more mainstream and not part of the permaculture method of "edible forests."
I was currently recommended "Working with Your Woodland". (Sorry, off topic question)
You are most welcome.
I appreciate all you have done for the country sincerely as a few of my family members and high school friends have served.
Jay C. White Cloud wrote:Hi Jonathan
There are all kinds of PE (you already know what it stands for) and some work just on bridges, some on skyscrapers, and a very few on what folks now call "alternative architecture." So NO you would not seek out a software engineer to approve engineering for your house, you would want a different kind.
Jay C. White Cloud wrote:
When you are reading to design something Jonathan, if you keep it open and public I would be glad to help you out on this forum, but you must be willing to follow directions and take feedback from the group...or...you can contact me privately and I will work for you as you designer. Either way you have access to my resources as long as it is not for profit but just your own home. I make a living as a builder, consultant, and restorationist (among other skill sets.) I augment this by assisting on sites like "Permies" to aid folks that may have will, but NO SKILL, and they also have means of mind and muscle, but NO MONEY. So I will help you with developing your "vocabulary" or you can pay me to speak for you, it's your choice.
Jay C. White Cloud wrote:
Look Jonathan, I hear and understand your frustration, really I do. Nevertheless, You have to stop swimming against the current or you are going to drown yourself. No social, geopolitical or other human system is ever going to be perfect. We just aren't there collectively as a species yet. So whether you are a Socialist like myself (Native culture is a socialistic culture) or a GOP Capitalist, you are going to be part of a system if you live in society (not all societies are civil, trust me I know I saw them when I was an active Marine) and until we evolve to stop being the egocentric, greedy, self serving, disrespectful and wasteful species we are, none of these systems are going to be perfect. Learn to work from within the system, and swim with the current till you get to a better destination.
Oh yeah, before I go, don't ever deluded yourself that even if the system was perfect you would ever own and piece of land. It is not ethically, or spiritually possible for a truly ascension life form to ever believe they could own another living thing. If any thing, as my grandmother would say, the land...it owns you. So even if you have a piece of property, there are other living things around you (including your neighbors) that may have a say on how you conduct yourself, as it could affect their well being.