Phil Gardener wrote:They've even made ships out of concrete (but they float by a different principle)
Aircrete is nifty stuff! Have fun with it! Happy New Year!
bruce Fine wrote:I saw something somewhere and 55 gal drums were painted black, filled with water and used as thermal mass with great success in a greenhouse. adding a solar water heater panel and small circulating pump could help keep the heat up.
thomas rubino wrote:Hi Douglas; Welcome to Permies!
Were you hoping to extend your growing season with water barrels?
They work well all summer long to take the chill off.
However , be forewarned they work completely backwards, when you ask them to work in the spring or fall.
That same water mass that holds heat, also will go cold and steal heat... Will take all day on a sunny spring day for them to absorb heat.That heat "might " be enough to keep your plants warm.
On a cloudy day they stay cool and steal heat! Plants go cold., nothing thrives, if they survive at all.
They also take up a huge area...
That same area "could" have a rocket mass heater! Nice long warm mass to set your starts on. Will definitely extend your season right into winter if you wish.
Come check out the RMH forum here at Permies. We even have a section on rmh's in greenhouses.
I keep a plastic greenhouse warm all winter in northern Montana with a RMH. No fire all night long... no creosote ever, clean ash out once a year...Less than 5 cords of wood to do this.
Even if you do not desire one in your greenhouse, it is just good information to have in your head.
You never know... you might want one in the future in your home.
Travis Johnson wrote:Kind of a funny side story on "Katie".
As I said, I have been married twice before, so when I met Katie, and things got serious between us, I was worried as she had two children, and I did not want to enter and exit their lives and cause irreversible harm. So I prayed, because I am a believer, and it was like he answered clear as a bell in a quiet voice, "And who did you say you were going to marry when you were a kid?"
When I was young, and played with my toy tractors and trucks, I always pretended I had a Katie for a wife. Then one day I heard a sermon on prating specifically, so I prayed my wife would be a Katie, that is how I would know.
But then I married a Tina and a Patty and wondered why it did not work out? Katie though, she is special, and my best friend. It is also why I use her name Katie a lot instead of wife. Her name means so much to me.
Travis Johnson wrote:I often wonder if more people would build cabins if they did it Maine Style?
This is where the logs are laid vertically instead of horizontally because it allows a camp to be made with smaller logs, and shorter logs. I know it does not have the traditional look, but Maine Loggers developed this because the logging companies did not want to use good trees to make logging camps for the loggers, but instead wanted those good trees to go down to the mills as logs, and instead use smaller, shorter trees to build cabins to live in as they cut wood.
thomas rubino wrote:Sorry William; That building went away many years ago.
I do live in a 90 year old cabin now though. Fire killed cedar logs from the big 1910 fires in the N.W.
I can't claim to have built it. I'm only one year older than you... 15 x 20 a whopping 300 square feet ! Multiple additions give us a huge 600 ft or so.