Audrey Barton

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My husband and are I motivated, young "city-folk" who've recently bought our first bit of land in the country -- just over 5 acres north of Lansing, Mi. We were quite active in community gardens and farmers markets in the city, and love having our own space!

Our parcel came with an old, beaten-down mid-century farm house that we're making habitable, two barns, great neighbors, and a good amount of space to stretch. The topography is NUTS! We have about 2 acres of open, relatively flat land atop our hill, where the house sits. Down a steep slope is a swath of forest, backed by a marsh full of wildlife.

When we're not outside, we're busy working in the city, serving as peacemaker for the dog and cats, biking, making art, canning, dehydrating, baking, and growing our first child (Due in September).

I'm looking for terracing and hugelkultr options top expand our growing space down the hillside.

I'm growing as much food as I can in our raised-bed garden, and we're raising rabbits for their many benefits. This spring, we put in a small orchard of semi-dwarf and dwarf apple trees. Now, we're trying to keep the deer off 'em!
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Briannon English wrote:Just wanted to add our names to this list. We are in Ann Arbor, but absolutely IN LOVE with the entire state. Currently hoping to find more like minded people. We love everything permaculture, and wish at this time in our lives it was more accessible to us. We currently live in the downtown area, while my husband is finishing his Master's in Geographic Information Systems. Cannot wait to be at a place in our lives where we can once again(we once owned a farm) grow LOTS of food and have lots of animals. Would love to meet more people like us.

-Bree & Brett



Hey there, Bree and Brett!

Glad you've found the Michigan permies. Sounds like you're on the right track! I suspect that my husband and I are a few years ahead of you -- we finished school, saved up for a few years whilst living in Lansing, and are now out in 'the sticks' on our own small acreage north of the city. We have rabbits, chickens, house pets, a toddler, an enormous veggie garden, and the beginnings of a permaculture property. Our next BIG projects are constructing a greenhouse and installing a water-catchment pond system. Busy, busy!

Use this time as an incubation period. Learn all that you can, and get your hands dirty as often as possible. Seek out community gardens and workshops, like those hosted by Tillers International (they're in mid-Michigan). Expand your skills, library and knowledge before you become landowners. Once you've got your boots on your own soil, you'll have so many projects and chores it can be hard to find time for other stuff!

Enjoy, dream, and keep on working towards that goal! -- Audrey
9 years ago
Thanks for the suggestions.

The cold isn't damaging to the plants, I'm just tired of waiting for red tomatoes.
My compost tea isn't ready yet, but that's what I'll try in a few more days. I certainly don't want to harvest them all or pull the plants. I'm impatient, but not yet desperate!

I thought that the greenhouse effect created by polyethylene would speed the ripening process -- am I wrong?
Here in Mid-Michigan we've had an unseasonably cool, wet summer.

My tomato starts, all 40 of them, grew fast and have produced endless, delightful green fruits...
But they're still green.
Some are trying to turn, but they need more heat!

We're looking at another week (at least) of somewhat-rainy weather, with highs in the low 70s.
My plan is to cover the beds with polyethylene (they're raised, cedar-sided beds measuring 4 by 10 feet).

Is it worth the trouble?
Will it work?
Should I be worried about trapping too much moisture in there?
Chufa, or "Nutsedge," took over our lawn when we were renting in the city.
We didn't mind, as the rest of the lawn was full of dandelions and grubs.

Mother Earth News did a special story on it sometime in the 70s.
Next time I come across that issue, I'll share it here!

It's quite tenacious, and does spread easily.
Adding it to polyculture or hugulkultur is an interesting idea, but I'll avoid it for now.
There are strong turkey and deer populations where we live now, and I'd rather keep them out of my production garden!
11 years ago
That's clever, Ann!
I tried using a sewing box (for embroidery floss) with tiny baggies, but it wasn't worth the hassle.

For now, my photo album organization is functioning.
I have a photo flip-book for flowers, a 3x5 accordion folder for herbs, and another full of tomato varieties.

How about a spice rack?
I have a bunch of empty glass spice jars, some with sprinkle lids that might be good for planting carrots and lettuce. Hmm...
Thanks again, Judith.
So you're the helper, and the culprit
I very much appreciate your help, and so do my radishes!
11 years ago
Thanks very much for the kind, thoughtful answers.

The torrential Michigan rains continued until last night.
Once things dry out a bit, I'll inspect what's left of my radish crop, and act accordingly.

Judith -- Thank you for qualming my fears. I've since found the forum with explanations for newbies like me, and am feeling more at home. It's a neat place, this Permies forum!

Kelly -- Thanks for that silver lining. I'll keep this in mind, for future ant issues. I'm still hoping to eat a few of these radishes, though...

Jay -- Covering them after laying DE is so obvious, I missed it. THANK YOU for that suggestion!
I do have toads and a few frogs in my garden, and will research how to provide habitats for them. They seem to like shade (and so do I). I also have a few garden snakes and a sneaky fox squirrel.

Fred -- Thanks for the boiling water tip. I considered this, but was hoping to save the radishes these ants had nested beneath. I lived in Texas for a number of years, and we were plagued by fire ants. They're awful! I'm glad I'm just dealing with little pavement ants.

Again, thanks to all!
11 years ago
You're right, Peter. I did misinterpret your concern about women's rights, transposing it into a fear of, well, fear.
There's a very outspoken and well-organized community of women's rights activists across the state.
Though they've lost ground in this situation, all hope is not lost.


In regards to moving to SE Michigan ... I wish you luck!
The Right to Farm debacle will certainly affect rural-minded people in a more densely populated area, or areas prone to new developments. As I said before, be very choosy when buying land, and look at the community and surrounding area. We bought a few acres just beyond the urban sprawl of Lansing, but in a relatively secluded area hemmed in by a large nature reserve. One of our Musts was to live at least 10 miles/minutes AWAY from any freeway or highway. It may lead to a slightly longer commute, but this lack of "convenience" will frighten off many developers.

To get back to your original question, my thoughts as one "one the ground" are to avoid the Metro-Detroit area, but that's based on my preferences. Being close to family is great, but would an hour-long drive be too far? There are good spots in Ingham and Livingston counties that might give you more rural room, and thus more peace of mind. There are pros and cons, of course.

So, take your time choosing your acreage, as it sounds like you're looking for a good chunk of homesteading land. And again, good luck!

If you haven't found it yet, the Smitten in the Mitten forum may be of some use/interest.
https://permies.com/forums/posts/list/40/13349
11 years ago
Hey there, Permies!

I'm relatively new to the site, and recently posted a new topic that has been FLAGGED.

https://permies.com/t/35948/bugs/ACK-ANTS

What have I done?
Flagging is bad, right?
I can't locate a FAQ section with answers.
Can someone please tell me where I went wrong?
Perhaps this was posted in the wrong sub-forum?
Any advice is appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
11 years ago
Oh, no!

I see this has been flagged, but am not sure what I've done wrong.

I'll keep looking for an answer, but can anyone tell me?
Is this in the wrong forum?
I'm sorry!

Just looking to save my radishes
11 years ago