So my understanding is Pinon's take 20 to 30 years of maturity to start producing. I mean It’s not that they aren't worth having around, but thats a long time to wait for a return. Wild foraging pine nuts for now seems more of a viable option. At least here in Utah which we have the same trees. I have Almonds and walnuts here and lots of fruit trees but am at 4500 feet its quite different. Goji berries do really well and our bush cherries are taking over the neighbors unmaintained back yard.