Jeff Favelle

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Thanks for the reply Allen!

Heated benches are out for me, all I want is ambient. All my seedlings are grown in a tropical room inside so heated benches is not on my list. Great idea though.

I should have a decent amount of thermal mass as I will have raised beds and the concrete slab I poured is 6 inches thick.

As for stuff on the floor, the only thing on the floor is the raised beds and even then, the working height for them is 24 inches high at the soil level (so likely 4-feet high at the plant-harvesting level).

As for temperature swings, living in Victoria its VERY mild. I mean very. Christmas is usually a plus 8 degrees Celsius and the "heat" of summer hovers around 22C.

Wood supply is infinite as I have two woodworkers in the family. Any size and any type of wood is at my disposal.

The turbine vents are 14" diameter. In the summer they will be wide open. In the winter, the left one will be closed up and the right one will have a 15 x 15" piece of wood attached to the bottom to seal it. I'll cut out an 8" hole in the center to affix my vent pipe.

So I just need a design. That's the part that is getting me confused.

allen lumley wrote:Jeff Favelle : May I have a shot at modifying your goals a little? There is a very common mind trap that everyone with a limited amount of
space falls into!

About the 1st permanent improvement you make in your green house will be to figure out how to get things up off of the floor and save your
back! Here is where the Rocket Mass Heater RMH, shines, You will have ready-made benches, and heated seedling beds for ever! As soon as
you are inside your Greenhouse you have palace to set things down !

I even expect that as you start out at the very beginning of your growing season you will wish for a 1/2 dozen 55 gal drums full of water to
temper the temperature swings in your greenhouse every time you open a door! The amount of crowding you find acceptable will change
according to your needs !

Speaking of setting things down, Now is the time to think about An air lock type of shed addition to reduce cold air falling into your G'house
in the early days/weeks of your growing season every time you need to enter or exit your Greenhouse!

Because your RMH demands small, very dry, fine split wood, storing your wood within the greenhouse with its high vapor content will be a
problem! You can create an attached air tight wood box to load from outside, and unload on the inside, with the ends of your building being
preferred, Not under your eaves with their snow load !

You certainly should have enough ventilation, I am quibbling over your word choice Smoke Vent This would imply to many that you
were not planning on connecting the two together with hard pipe, This may or may not work for you -most of the days of your growing/heating
season! When your rocket is fired-up and running you may not have a problem, except with cold starts !

My recommendation is to try it your way, but to have a budget that allows for needing a Tall Vertical Chimney at least 4' over the top of the
greenhouse roof, and any nearby object bigger than a TV Antenna ! For the Good of The Craft ! Big AL

10 years ago
Here is what my greenhouse looks like from the outside. The turbine heat vent on the right side will double as a smoke vent in the winter for the rocket stove.

10 years ago
Hey guys, I had a post in the main forum, but I see all greenhouse queries are getting directed here.

My situation is that I need a small, temporary rocket stove for my 14 x 14 greenhouse. Also, it HAS to be inside. I live in Victoria, BC, so I really only need the stove operational for Nov-Feb, so the ability to disassemble it is a must. I was thinking of making the whole thing out of bricks and I see a few designs like that for "campfire" RS's, but would that be suitable as a "mass heater"?
10 years ago
And here's an early inside view of the Aloe beds and a couple Jalapeno beds being built :
10 years ago
Here's an outside pic of the greenhouse last week as I was finishing the trim :
10 years ago
Hey guys, thanks for the tips! Greenhouse is essentially built (just in time), just leveling benches and raised beds inside. Once that's done, all efforts will be focused on the RMH.

I want one that's not permanent. I want to be able to disassemble it every spring. I'll only be running it from November to March so for 8 months, it'll just be in the way. My thoughts are bricks as they are easy to stack and easy to store. Any ideas on design? Greenhouse is 14x14 and I'd like to keep it at 70F at night.
10 years ago
Hey guys, thanks for the answers! So I'm looking into ways to vent the fumes.....

In the summer, I have a couple passive turbine roof vents running (these ones: http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Heating-Ventilation-Cooling-Home-Comfort/Ventilation/Venting/Roof-Turbines/14-Mill-Aluminum-Turbine-Vent/_/N-2pqfZ67l/Ne-67n/Ntk-All_EN/R-I2670639?Ntt=Roof+Turbines)....in the colder months, what do you all think of attaching the stove vent pipe to one of these to get rid of the exhaust? IF so, these are 16 feet off the ground.....how tall can I make the vent pipe and still have an effective stove?
11 years ago
Thanks Dave, great info.

Unfortunately, getting under the greenhouse will now be impossible. A concrete pad has been poured and the greenhouse is permanently fixed to a foundation (this sucker is BUILT!).

Good to know its possible to burn entirely inside....I guess I'll experiment with a simple 24-brick tester stove and if that works, I'll pour a proper mould for a more efficient unit.

Thanks!
11 years ago
Hey fellow Permies. First post here. I live in Victoria, BC (Canada) and I am looking for alternative ways to heat my greenhouse. Being a somewhat mediterranean climate, I am only worried about the temperatures for maybe 2-2.5 months of the year (Dec-Jan). I could run an extension cord and put a space heater in it, but that's not why we're here, is it?

So my thoughts turned to rocket stoves. Unfortunately, space around the greenhouse is spoken for so I can use any of the designs that have the stoves outside the unit. So essentially my question is, can a rocket stove operate completely within the greenhouse? Will it get too smokey? Will my Basil taste like ash?

Thoughts?
11 years ago