martin van baaren

I think I did see the "Peter's Gathering batch rocket" on youtube. Did see something that looked a bit too violent to have inside a building

Satamax Antone wrote:Some idea is ramping up in my mind. And i hope the results will be posted by november.

Interesting. I'll buy your plans if you can make it before november
I currently don't have the time and working space to start doing anything. Frustrating.

I'm reading up on the Batch box pricipal. I see this is a bit more flexible when it comes to size. It can be scaled down to a 3" system if I understand correctly and which would be the best for for heating up smaller spaces I guess. And also physically fit into small spaces and stoves.

I think the smallest 3" could be compatible with the tallgrass design. The horizontal sortof Lorane bell may not be the best solution when it comes to output, clean burning and fuel use. But I can compromise a bit on that.

I would then have an additional cooking plate over the batch box as you suggested. Less insulation, if any at all, for heat storage. And being able to shut off the thing and transport heat out the building the shortest possible way. I think the heat from the cooking plates and coming out of the batch box door could be sufficient for radiant heat.

Rocketry is quite a subject after all. Takes time sorting out the info. But this is whats ramping up overhere right now. Keeps me awake at night lol.

Satamax Antone wrote:http://donkey32.proboards.com/thread/1568/batch-cooker Interesting pic on page two.

Must be this one :

I'm thinking a batch box would fit in well here.

This one is considered too experimental for indoor use I guess, but it seems to run just fine:

martin van baaren wrote:As it's now you probably should not fall asleep next to it if no sufficient ventilation in the room.
Some modifications of the cooking plate could resolve this.

Well, as he says himself it looks in fact quite promising as it is:

Testing the cooker. Even with the mix fresh and wet applied around the tea kettle, you can see the burn is complete combustion. There was smoke for only about 25 seconds upon first lighting the fire, then the draw became smooth and the smoke disappeared. Here I am venting the exhaust gasses straight into the room, and the exhaust port is clean and clear.

...not saying good ventilation isn't necessary.

Satamax Antone wrote:And for the interest of what is possible, a pure cooking rocket by tallgrass.
http://donkey32.proboards.com/thread/1710/horizontal-rocket-powered-insulated-cookstove
Hope this can give you ideas.

Sure does Santamax, thanks a bunch!

This simplest setup speaks the most to my imagination.

As it's now you probably should not fall asleep next to it if no sufficient ventilation in the room.
Some modifications of the cooking plate could resolve this..


I would need to include metal for some immediate heat radiation, that's a basic cold winter requirement. Maybe also some glass for additional light.

Together with the other examples you post this goes in the direction of what I need. Simplicity, compact, remote location, heat storage, cooking, clean burn, little firewood....

I will talk to tallgrass. His secondary air intake must be a winner. Even I can see dat!

Keira Oakley wrote:the eggs, coming from big ants, taste a bit like brie or something haha, something I miss as I don't eat dairy.

Actually you can use ant eggs as a yogurt starter.

Hi Allen, thanks for your concerns.

As a matter of fact I would expect you or other experienced rocketeers to get out here and explain exactly why something is likely to fail.

That said, I have not decided on any stove, nor trust anyone blindly. I will have a wood stove available and time on my hands and have always appreciated working with fire.

Martin

Glenn Herbert wrote:You could use granite for the bell, depending on your masonry experience. How much experience do you have? You would want to be sure that you would not have leaks from the bell that would let flue gases into your room. It might be practical to build a smallish bell with cob mortar at first, hone your skill, and rebuild to a final design later.

Good! I'm sort of a possibilities person

I came across this masonry RMH:

He's giving away the dimensions in the video so you would not need to spend the $35.

Should be possible to put a steel plate on top of a masonry bell?

The bell would need to be pretty air tight I guess yes. My masonry skills are good. I would very much like to use granite where possible as that is what I have laying around everywhere.

I also would like to have any additional heating pipes under the floor instead of in a bench. I'm used to store about everything I own under the bed. For saving space.

This one may be another possible solution. Doesn't look like a rocket to me but the design may be possible to adapt somehow.

Anyway with an ordinary wood stove on site I can sort of relax and get creative.

Thanks.

Thanks for additional explanation Glenn.

The challenge here was finding a balance between energy output, space that needs to be heated up, living space to be built, the need for cooking -and also growing food during 5+ months winter, transport, availability of on-site materials, and available time before winter kicks in.
Money is another factor.

It is now clear that I would have to build a bigger dwelling in order to not have the whole thing getting in the way rather than being a fire and forget solution. A smaller barrel will not eliminate the need for more space as much as I thought it could.
Another solution could be an additional outdoor rocket stove for cooking, heating water etc, and use the RMH mainly for heating and stable temperature.

As for the bigger dwelling to be built as I had originally planned, I could do that in stages. For instance it would not need to be insulated that well as long as I have the RMH in place and running.

Before anything else I'll make sure I have plenty of firewood and a wood stove at hand. I had hoped to get around that but not taking the chance.

Also still open for other solutions than the barrel/bell type mass heater if there turn out to be any. Between my ears the potential of rocketry is barely 2 weeks old.
I only knew that I wanted one

Martin

Quoting one of the comments on article:

Why do you think they call it "Television Programming"

Just noticed it seems to be OK to link to commercial websites at Permies.com, so taking the chance.
http://www.harvestessentials.com/hurricane-wheatgrass-juicer-stainless-steel-like-mj445.html

This is not for advertizing for this particular brand. I'm just impressed by it after one month of use and I like the simplicity of it.

Again it takes some practice and power to get the best out of this hand crank juicer. For example I cut up wheat grass and weeds in 2 inch lengths, large carrots are split up in thinner lengths etc. You'll find out how to work it when you really have to

The removable stainless steel mesh can sometimes get stuck after use. I sometimes have to use a monkey wrench to get it out for cleaning. That's the only thing I dislike about this juicer but I can live with it, NP.
This mesh also tends to become saturated with pulp after some use and then it simply is time for cleaning and continue juicing after. The cleaning is a rather simple process.

It grinds coffee beans as well and even wheat berries can be milled to flour -again you would need to practice and get the grip of how to do it without using too much power. I don't recommend it as a grain mill, just saying it will work if necessary.

As for the investment, this juicer comes with a 5 year warranty. May not last that long if it's used by the whole family as a grain mill though. For now I'd guess it will serve 2 persons well for at least 5 years. It is a solid handy little crusher and that should outlive it's plastic variants several times.

I'm in Norway and payed 90 bucks extra :/ (custom taxes and shipping). But still not expensive enough to scare me from buying one more. Items like these are, to me, as good as gold for investment when it comes to long term prepping.

Demo: