Jay Berryman

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Tucson, United States
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Thanks for the replies, I will definitely check out those links. I wasn't planning on getting rid of it like plowing it all up etc, I was kinda hoping to just bring in more variety and nutrients. I think we have the common here, I've never seen it get very tall and it usually has more runners than height. I will have to do more research.
11 months ago
I am moving to land with 4 cows feeding on Bermuda grass(and supplemental hay and feed). I am going to switch to rotational grazing and hope to come close to the increase in fertility and pasture that Salatin has. I want to get more pasture growing and get rid of the Bermuda. How hard will this be? The cows really over grazed and hurt the grass. The whole land is irrigated and sprinklers going. Can true pasture out compete Bermuda eventually or will it need to be removed? I don't mind the Bermuda I just think there is better grasses for cows. How should I attack this?
1 year ago
What is the best way to compost? I can find lots of info on 1 type of composting but I am not seeing as much about mixing compost styles. For instance I like the ideas of worm bins, I also plan to run chickens and I was also looking at Black Soldier Fly larvae and possibly meal worms for chicken/quail feed. I was also thinking of raising at least some quail and rabbits. All of this will be starting as home use, nothing commercial. I don't think we produce enough food waste to feed all this. I will try finding local sources for more compost materials and worm food, etc. Is there certain things that work better in one system then another? I know meat is not good for straight compost but it works in worms, BSL and chickens? I read something about function stacking and I think it was rabbits poop > BSL > quail, is there anything else to combine the chain of composters? I wouldn't be against a regular compost pile either but I think I will be busy enough with all these systems. We have 3 acres and cows as well. Lots of grasses and hopefully growing a food forest eventually and a garden.

Nothing is built yet, we are actually moving in the next month or two so I am just planning. The cows are there now from the previous owner and being taken care of until we move in.
1 year ago
As of right now 6 cows are on the land and not being controlled, in my opinion, probably overgrazing and once it gets too bad they are finally moved. They are getting supplemental feed though. My thoughts are first will be to thin the herd, 2 oldest are going to auction and I am not sure if they are planning on slaughtering the younger 2 or not. I hope to use the paddock shift and supplement feed within them to add to the nutrients/biomass. IE if I bring in hay then anything not eaten will get stomped in and returned to earth. Is there other healthy supplemental feeds for the cows and earth? The whole land is canopy covered with large mesquite trees so there is a lot of nitrogen fixing going on. We are already planning on blocking off new growth on a bunch of them to start bringing up replacements. I am also debating adding new trees for diversity and maybe even something like Black locust for firewood. That list is awesome, I will definitely be looking into what all this zone will support.
1 year ago
That's what I'm thinking, I figured I could get around 33 paddocks around 60'x60' on the land. We will be cutting them down to 1-2 cows and probably breeding 1-2 per year. If we supplement feed should I feed in the pen for the day? What about spent grain from the brewery? That seems to kill grass when it's piled on for days(they get a trailer load), but maybe it would be fine for feeding them, or use a bucket to feed them, I'm not sure how they are feeding them the grain now. Is different grasses best? Any other plants to feed them? I was kinda thinking about comfrey or other plants to help aerate the soil with roots and dynamic accumulation? Even if the cows won't eat it, it should help the soil?
1 year ago
Forgot to share some pics, not the best and it was during the heat of summer but these are the ones I got online

https://imgur.com/a/9lZP5
1 year ago
Thanks for the reply! I was thinking the same thing actually, I wonder how many chickens I would need to clean up 300 sq yards.

1 year ago
Is anyone running rotational grazing on a smaller scale but using Joel Salatin's methods?

Info, I live in Southern AZ. Tucson to be exact. The land is in a small micro climate though that is cooler than most areas around Tucson, more frost and freeze days but no snow except the very rare occasion. USDA zone 9b/10a I think it was?

I am moving to a new homestead in a month or two and the previous owner had cows. The land is in pretty good shape mostly with tall mesquite trees covering the main pasture. The whole land is 3.5 acres and I estimate around 2 acres split into 2 pastures. 1 pasture is the main pasture the cows have stayed in and graze, probably around 1.5 acres, lush green grass from what I've seen. The secondary pasture is pretty beat up, its what they stay in when its wet, or winter, or the main pasture is just grazed too much. Mostly dirt, etc.  The neighbor has perfectly manicured grass due to solid irrigation and mowing and he dumps the clippings into the pasture with the cows to feed them for the previous owner and get rid of them for himself lol. Those clippings along with spent grain from a local brewery(step uncle is good friends with the brewery owner so he gets them pretty regular) and then supplemental hay as needed in winter is how they have been surviving as long as I have known. The land was my step grandmother's. The cows used to always be 2 cows, bred every year and every year the yearlings or however old they were would be slaughtered and the parents kept 1 for meat and the sons got the other for meat. The cows were getting older so they let 2 younger cows grow up and with the parents having health problems and passing away there are now 6 cows. The older 2 will be sold at auction and maybe 1 or 2 will be slaughtered for beef and I imagine we will end up with 2-3. I want to start rotational grazing. I am trying to research as much as possible to get a decent idea of what they will need. There are a couple chickens on site but they are just kept in a coop. I would like to use a tractor and get them helping behind the cows as well. I also plan to raise quail and rabbits eventually but don't want to get too many irons in the fire right away. Eventually I will also work on garden and food forest. This pasture land is also plumbed and irrigated with sprinklers off a well, the whole house was on a well but the city got water in the area and they opted to get city water as the well was being temperamental. Mostly breakers needing reset and hard water needed softening and they decided to get "reliable water" since they were in their 80s. Most of what I was reading says 100-200 sq yards per cow per day, I roughed out some drawings and looks like I could get 33ish paddocks around 300 sq yards. Would 33 days be enough rest with irrigated pasture land? I know Joel gets more and most things I've read say 30 as a minimum but I dont think that takes into account irrigated pasture. That also includes 25 really good paddocks in the main pasture and 8 that need help in the overrused pasture. Hopefully with better grazing practices and a little help we can get those back to lush paddocks as well. We don't get snow here usually and this land actually seems to get better "winter rye" than summer grass according to my step father.

If you tractor chickens in would you still want to wait 4 days after the cows? How many chickens do you think it would take to keep up with 3 cows? I know there are bobcats, raccoons, hawks and owls so I think I will be using tractors and not able to free range them. Would rabbits fit into the system with tractors as well or would that be better to just set up in hutches? I would prefer they get as much living on the land as possible and maybe only keep breeders separated. Not sure where they fit in best in the rotation.

Anyways, thanks for listening to my rambling and any help or guidance you can provide would be greatly appreciated!
1 year ago

Tyler Ludens wrote:It might have been the plan, I'm wondering if it ever happened?  The examples I've seen show ongoing irrigation.  This one uses both drip and flood irrigation:  

 

Greening The Desert - Muslim Aid Australia permaculture



The quote I heard in that video was that the vegetables used drip and the trees were watered by rain.

I guess Lancaster and Lawton aren't really a competition, I will use Lancaster's cistern ideas and maybe his design for a zone 1 small garden/trees/oasis type area around the house and Lawton's on a more broad scale. I prefer the permaculture idea of growing support species and chopping and dropping for nutrients and mulch and Lancaster seems to be more about just mulch and compost and keeping everything tidy looking.
2 years ago
Here's Jake Mace's yard up in Phoenix.  
 He uses some permaculture but mostly just lots of mulch. Jennifer had an awesome yard too but I can't find the link. She had a thread here from around that time. I can't believe Lancaster still hasn't come out with his third volume lol. Fwiw I prefer Lawton and apparently Toby. I'll look him up. Permaculture and stacking functions and helping the ground absorb water seems better than Lancaster's plan. I like some of his ideas but he does a lot of stuff for looks and he also helps divert road runoff so you don't want to do a lot with that water. Lancaster did a lot with his land but I still prefer Lawton's Permaculture. There is a guy on YouTube, homesteadonomics, that lives south of Tucson and uses rainwater harvested on his roofs for about 90% of his household and homestead water usage every year. He's got some cool videos too
2 years ago